msmobiles.com interviews Annemarie Duffy from Microsoft
Top Windows Mobile manager for EMEA (Europe, Middle East and Africa) talks to us.
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This interview was carried out at the end of June 2004 during Tech Ed 2004 Europe conference (in Amsterdam, Netherlands) - MDC 2004 Europe was a tiny part of huge Tech Ed. For some official information about Annemarie Duffy click here to read related news item. The "PR:" parts are spoken by Matt Warder of Weber Shandwick (Windows Mobile PR agency in UK). The interview follows.
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msmobiles.com: could you introduce yourself? what is your role in Microsoft? what are you doing there?
Annemarie Duffy: OK, good, I am Annemarie Duffy, I am senior marketing manager in Europe, and I am part of Mobile and Embedded devices group at Microsoft; I am senior marketing manager for a Europe but I actually report directly into the US team
msmobiles.com: are you reporting to Mark Spain? to whom are you reporting
Annemarie Duffy: no, I am actually part of global PR (marketing?) team, I report to [indistinct], who replaced Derek Brown
msmobiles.com: yeah, I know Derek brown [interviewed him in Switerzerlnad], he left..
Annemarie Duffy: he moved to [small business] sms mp team
msmobiles.com: so you are operating in Europe, Middle East and Africa?
Annemarie Duffy: thatīs correct.
msmobiles.com: whatīs your role?
Annemarie Duffy: I am marketing and I am looking at analyst relations and watching PR [public relations] - across Europe.
msmobiles.com: Ok, so..., there are some questions open still... so I was watching the keynote, there was there a presentation with costumes..
Annemarie Duffy: yes, indeed.
msmobiles.com: and they showed "Mobile2Market catalog"
Annemarie Duffy: yes, indeed, yes.
msmobiles.com: it looks like it will kill Handango and Smartphone.net...
Annemarie Duffy: no, actually
msmobiles.com: so in France at 3GSM I was chatting with Handango vice president and he was showing me InHand application, that looks exactly the same like this "mobile2market catalog" that also runs inside of smartphone... so that people can browse offline...
Annemarie Duffy: so what it can do... you looked into the Mobile2Market catalog?
msmobiles.com: sure.
Annemarie Duffy: OK, so reasoning behind Mobile2Market catalog is bringing together the developer community ... and giving them [applications] to variety of different distributors, whether they are retailers or e-tailers, handango.... variety of different retailers in the world and also to the mobile operators... obviously it is a challenge ... applications must be certified and then they can be added to the mobile2market catalog... applications in catalog can be accessed by different retailers and etailers and operators
msmobiles.com: OK, so this is so that operators could see better whatīs there... but this mobile to market [catalog], this application that loads to smartphone... he was showing that you can buy [through it] actually...
Annemarie Duffy: no, it was more from a demonstratin point of view... one stop further, saying that developer can publish the application ... so it was a mock up of application so you can view what applications are available ... we are absolutely commited...
msmobiles.com: so you are selling those applications through mobile2market?
Annemarie Duffy: no, we are not.
msmobiles.com: so handango and smartphone.net ..
Annemarie Duffy: yes, absolutely,we donīt sell any of this, any third party applications directly from Microsoft so we are committed to working through different distributors whether these are operators, retailers or e-tailers.
msmobiles.com: OK. Mark Spain mentioned on this slide that there were 50 operators now [selling Microsoft powered cell phones] but I would be interested how many of these are Microsoft Smartphone operators not just PDA phones - Pocket PC phones operators.
Annemarie Duffy: well, we wouldnīt get you the final number, but...
PR: something like 16-17
Annemarie Duffy: yeah, we have a full list that we could show ... 16 or 17
PR: something like that, might be 20
Annemarie Duffy: we could give you figure of operators that have launched or are launching... for example last week in Spain - Amina - they will ship a smartphone in a summer and itīs first Spanish operator, we certainly have PIM in Italy amongst they gonna ship the smartphone you know...
msmobiles.com: so they are selling [Microsoft] smartphoes through their own channels, not just through some distributors?
Annemarie Duffy: yes, absolutely.
msmobiles.com: TIM is gonna ship it through their own, you know, retail stores. As is Amina [in Spain], as is TMN in Portugal.
PR: ... several in Asia
msmobiles.com: this is a developersī conference, so I donīt know if you are technical..?
Annemarie Duffy: I am probably not as technical as developers who are here.
msmobiles.com: I am not sure if I understood it correctly: there was announcement about SQL Mobile ... previously known as SQL CE... previusly SQL CE was available only for Pocket PC
Annemarie Duffy: thatīs correct
msmobiles.com: but, but is it correct that now SQL Mobile will be available for [Microsoft] Smartphone too?
Annemarie Duffy: we will double check of what was announced at the show, but it makes obviously logical sense that we would support smartphone
[checked: yes, SQL Mobile = SQL Server 2005 Mobile Edition - is coming to Microsoft Smartphone too, and it will be available also for Pocket PC and Tablet PC platforms]
msmobiles.com: yeah, it would make logical sense right from the beginning...
Annemarie Duffy: yes.
msmobiles.com:... but unfortunately there was no support for SQL CE - former version - in smartphone, so people couldnīt make those [database] applications for smartphone ... it was like a confusion...
Annemarie Duffy: yeah, I think part of it is, this is really how Microsoft, you know, because we are 7 different business groups the actual SQL CE and SQL Mobile developmet ... is actually donīt buy SQL team ... so we obviously work to timelines of their products and future products and, you know, like any other ISV [Independent Software Vendor] who is trying to support Windows Mobile platform...
msmobiles.com: ... you say "Windows Mobile platform" but from my point of view I am interested more in Microsoft Smartphone which is more popular platform ... so I donīt care about 10 thousand users of Pocket PC, I care about 10 millions users of smartphone... so in this case you donīt know simply?
Annemarie Duffy: we can check, weīll let you know
[checked, yes, SQL Mobile for MS Smartphone is coming]
PR: it IS one platform!
msmobiles.com: OK, it is one platform but by now SQL CE - that former version of SQL Mobile - was not available for Microsoft Smarthphone
Annemarie Duffy: yeah, I agree wih that
msmobiles.com: this is one platform and it is not one platform, so it is difficult for developers to develop applications that would use database, off-line database, mobile database connectivity
Annemarie Duffy: weīll check it this afternoon
[checked, yes, SQL Mobile is comig for MS Smartphone too! ; we were bugging about this topic because we consider it extremely important for long-term success of MS Smartphone platform]
msmobiles.com: [sighs] I am not sure if I can talk about it with you, because you are "Europe only"...
Annemarie Duffy: yeah
msmobiles.com: I was already bugging people in USA about this... so: your competition is Symbian and they have these smartphones with keypad and they have API, you know whatīs API? set of functions to call camera independent from which vendor this phone is. Microsoft doesnīt have it still - after 2 years after launch. What can you tell me? When it will be at last in the market?
Annemarie Duffy: OK, so what do you mean? so...
msmobiles.com: THIS is developers conference ... developers need common.. so that..
Annemarie Duffy: common interface, yeah
msmobiles.com: .. you have smartphone from Mitac and it has camera... you have smartphone from Orange and it has another camera and developer wants to have one set of functions to call this camera. For example you have barcode, you scan the barcode [demonstrates with Orange SPV E200 phone], it recognizes this barcode and you can buy the ticket, etc.. unfortunately developers cannot develop those applications because there is no common API
Annemarie Duffy: thatīs another area I have to come back to you.
[checked: Camera API comes in Smartphone OS that will be equipeed with Windows CE 5.0 - meaning: not in Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition, but in a version that comes long time after that]
msmobiles.com: maybe you have it in roadmap somewhere but I donīt know where is it... because I was following this situation already from October 2002 and...
Annemarie Duffy: to be honest .. it seems interesting if we havenīt enabled this to date already in current platform...
msmobiles.com: no!
Annemarie Duffy: Iīll double check
msmobiles.com: strange for me, because Symbian - your main competitor - has it right from the scratch - all along, and this is very important because developers can then make good applications.
Annemarie Duffy: we will check it and come back to you.
msmobiles.com: Mark Spain was showing this Mappoint... not Mark Spain but his people...
Annemarie Duffy: Tom Bailey.
msmobiles.com: maybe Tom Bailey. Who is he, by the way?
Annemarie Duffy: he is part of...
msmobiles.com: Microsoft?
Annemarie Duffy: definitely Microsfot, he is part of team division, Mobile and Embedded applications division.
msmobiles.com: he is working with Steve Lombardi?
Annemarie Duffy: yeah, I think Steve works for Tom.
msmobiles.com: OK, so he was showing this "Locator" or...?
Annemarie Duffy: yeah, "Mobile Locator".
msmobiles.com: could you tell something about this?
Annemarie Duffy: OK, so I think the application we were demonstrating is really just to highlight...
msmobiles.com: what does it do?
Annemarie Duffy: so it is really demonstrating the MapPoint Location webservice. I can decide what is information I am looking for. Is it a contact. What is actual location of Kevin, or yourself or, you know, of whatever...
msmobiles.com: It is just a demonstration? Not commercial product?
Annemarie Duffy: yes, it is demonstration at the moment, but itīs really developed, you know, and itīs probably available on the web, so that people can access it, but itīs really to demonstrate to both business customers the type of pair of applications, that they could...
msmobiles.com: so what itīs doing? itīs searhing for your friend?
Annemarie Duffy: no! no! what you could is for example, if you are a delivery company... or repair company... and you want to find out which engineer is closest to your customer because they have urgent call out, so you could do is to map and see, well.., Kevin is within 5 minute drive or the other engineer is one hour away. So, from the business perspective we can see a lot of advantages of enabling to provide this information and being able to use it in enterprise line of business applications.
msmobiles.com: so...
Annemarie Duffy: and itīs also you can use it for consumer type things, you know, finding an ATM, or finding the nearest...
msmobiles.com: OK, exactly! thatīs my interest! ... I understand that MapPoint Location server is a nice offering for enterprises
Annemarie Duffy: ... or developers
msmobiles.com: hm, developers of location based applications
Annemarie Duffy: yeah
msmobiles.com: ... but what about consumers?
Annemarie Duffy: so in the same way, so for example if I want do find out where is the nearest Starbucks or McDonalds
msmobiles.com: so I am a consumer living in UK for example and I would like to buy an application which would allow me to do such thing as this locator... so I can see where is my friends... I am going to Manchester for example and I want to see where in Manchster is my friend!
Annemarie Duffy: yeah
msmobiles.com: so is it available ? can I buy it?
Annemarie Duffy: well, what you need to do ... as part of .. because it is a part of a whole, it is a webservice, so you need to have license agreement to be able to access, you know, the location...
msmobiles.com: so you are saying that I have to program it myself so to say..?
Annemarie Duffy: no, no! the thing is...
msmobiles.com: I am consumer! From the point of view of consumer...
Annemarie Duffy: so you are a consumer or a developer?
msmobiles.com: now I am interested from the point of view of the consumer.
Annemarie Duffy: OK
msmobiles.com: so I was interviewing Steve Lombardi [at 3GSM Congress 2004 in France] and I know what is MapPoint Location service, so this is good for enterprises - enterprises can buy it, but what about consumer? so is Windows Mobile offering something as far as location based services are concerned?
Annemarie Duffy: so currently today, within platform, we havenīt got an application, that, which is a part of a ...
msmobiles.com: you have not?
Annemarie Duffy: No. Let me finish! ... so what we have got is the ability to have a rich client which you might use to access, you know, location based services, so my point is that all those kinds of developers, there are millions of developers can write an offer, a variety of a application which would really use those interfaces et cetera, windows mobile which could actually mappoint, ... so currently today, from Microsoft, we donīt have an application which is part of the platform but we are looking at obviously consumer type applications that really utilize this
msmobiles.com: OK, because there is this "MSN Messenger" and this is in Microsoft Smartphone...
Annemarie Duffy: yeah
msmobiles.com: so nobody thinks at Microsoft about adding location ....
Annemarie Duffy: oh we do, we obviously are thinking about that, but the other thing that we need to consider is the whole privacy part of location, you need to be
msmobiles.com: yes, if they both agree, if they "opt-in" itīs OK
Annemarie Duffy: yeah, so itīs something that we obviously are looking at... so MSN team, they obviously own the design... MSN messenger - how do they take advantage of the location based mappoint service
msmobiles.com: OK, so somebody from you mentioned that smartphone that infancy period
is over.
Annemarie Duffy: sorry, smartphone...?
msmobiles.com: infancy! infancy!
Annemarie Duffy: ehh, I donīt know whether... I would say that
msmobiles.com: what is market share? do you have some figures?
Annemarie Duffy: we donīt provide market share obviously, thatīs something that analyst communities who are viewing the phone market in a number of different ways, so what we would say, and what would analysts agree, that smartphone community itself is still in its infancy so ... so from Microsft perspective because of some new devices that are coming from Orange - the C500, you know - across the border from Sagem - the My-S7, et cetera... they will actually help generate...
msmobiles.com: always future time! they "gonna". they "will"
Annemarie Duffy: well, people today can take advantage of smartphone, can take advantage of great applications, but, I am sure you wouldīve agree with me, typically majority of people use their phone only for voice and text.
msmobiles.com: ... but some people use it for games...
Annemarie Duffy: yeah, but majority of the population in Europe - generally - donīt use those capabilities, so I think that another thing that we are seeing as well, especially why Windows Mobile software and Outlook can make a difference so, I am sure you would agree, most phones on the market have some sort of email or browsing capability. they are somewhere - you have to dig incredibly deep. itīs not easy, itīs not intuitive. so for most customers thatīs why they use just their voice and text.
msmobiles.com: ... so Microsoft smartphone brings this..?
Annemarie Duffy: well, we bring familiar outlook, so many people are familiar with outlook, you know Windows ... calendar, the contacts, ..??style, be able to access the information from within outlook et cetera, it really is enabling people who havenīt considered using the phone for anything more than voice and text ... so really see the benefit. And itīs familar - thatīs one of the things that Microsoft can offer!
msmobiles.com: could you mention because I donīt quite understand the "Windows Mobile Second Edition" for Microsoft smartphone, whatīs new in this
Annemarie Duffy: so, in a second edition of a windows mobile, this is really been developed with hardware partners in mind, enabling different screen resolutions,
msmobiles.com: but I mean Microsoft smartphone!
Annemarie Duffy: so am I ... resolutions and screen size ... so what we will probably see are some smartphones which have square screen, it really enables all of our hardware partners to really differentiate the various devices, that...
msmobiles.com: no, no! but Microsoft smarthone doesnīt have square resolution in Second Edition as I understand.
Annemarie Duffy: as far as I am aware
msmobiles.com: Pocket PC maybe, not smartphone...
Annemarie Duffy: letīs double check that with Steve [Clayton???] but as far as I am aware smartphone does support that
pr: it may mean not only different screen size but also different form factors
Annemarie Duffy: yeah
pr: slide keyboards...
msmobiles.com: so you are not forcing the hardware manufacturers to have the same screen display?
Annemarie Duffy: no, you can obviously see the difference when we have first launched the ehh, pocket, smartphone, ... should I say either Orange since first launched the screen size got gradually slightly smaller but the key thing to us is that whatever the developments we make we not, you know, fragment the developer, the platform, the key thing is what we dontī want to is getting to the situation which hardware vendors.. developer would have to, hm, optimize their applications for X different versions, of, you know, of the same platform, so weīre focused on providing this consistency
msmobiles.com: to fragment, means, that...
Annemarie Duffy: look at some of our competitors, look at some handset manufacturers - they all may be using the same operating system, but screen size may, you know, completely differ... you know from OEM, using the same operating system... and that causes to developers a headache, they would be ablet to write application, to run ... thatīs why for us to provide consistent platform for our developers, for developers comunity is crucial but at the same time providing a platform that enables our partners to differenciate and innovate is obviously key.
msmobiles.com: so your target customers, from the beginning you are targeting profesisionals, but whatīs about gaming? do you still donīt take seriously gaming?
Annemarie Duffy: so..?
msmobiles.com: your competition is pumping big millions into this gaming stuff.. so is there [in Windows Mobile] some support for gaming?
Annemarie Duffy: thereīs lots of support for gaming applications with the platform
msmobiles.com: specifically for gaming?
Annemarie Duffy: yes, specifically... there are some of those APIs, the gaming APIs ! ... that are within the platform specifically for gaming! So letīs take a step back. When we developed Windows Mobile for us there was important to provide familiar applications, so as I already said Outlook, Instant Messenger, Pocket Explorer, Windows Media, but we also recognized particularly for the smartphone market itīs probably used to use this application on regular basis.. initially trasition to using the phone that has this familiar software, Windows Mobile software... but we also recognized that most people are not in work mood all of the times, they want to have fun and use all kinds of application ... so you are probably familiar, I mean already there are...
msmobiles.com: I am not familiar, tell me!
Annemarie Duffy: OK! so there is already tons of 3D games already available for the platform...
msmobiles.com: OK, but the fact that the games are there doesnīt mean that the platform supports them.
Annemarie Duffy: oh, it does support them, there are APIs within the platform, which enable any gaming developers to really take advantage and you know...
msmobiles.com: do you have three dimensional APIs?
Annemarie Duffy: yes there are, so there is alot of support. You probably seen a game, a traditional game, such as Links, which is available for Pocket PC, desktop ...
msmobiles.com: I am interested in smartphone,
Annemarie Duffy: yes, I am talking about smartphone, I am talking about available in all .. I may have actually
pr: Laura Croft, there is number of...
msmobiles.com: no! But Laura Croft not
pr: there is eidos, they made initially for Pocket PC and now itīs available for smartphone. You should check the catalog!
[after double-checking: there is no Laura Croft game for Microsoft Smartphone yet]
msmobiles.com: I donīt think Laura Croft is available for smartphone.
msmobiles.com: so you are saying there is Laura Croft for this [pointing to Orange SPV C500 phone of A.] Smartphone
pr: OK, I got to check out...
Annemarie Duffy: I donīt know about Laura ... if you have a look whatīs in the catalog
msmobiles.com: you mean Mobile to Market?
Annemarie Duffy: yes, itīs showing you what are certified applications... [looks into her Orange SPV c500 smartphone] ... oh, I donīt have any.. but I had...
msmobiles.com: so this [pointing to Orange SPV C500 owned by A.] is your primary phone, this C500?
Annemarie Duffy: yeah
msmobiles.com: I was playing with it and I had impression that this keypad is not particularly good for gaming - itīs difficult to use
Annemarie Duffy: in what way? what do you mean?
msmobiles.com: to use it for gaming - itīs difficult
Annemarie Duffy: so actually, youīre right in kind - this joystick has changed - Orange made decision that joystic needs to change in C500 ... actually itīs direct feedback from a lot of research of early smartphone users
msmobiles.com: Orange decided to change it?
Annemarie Duffy: there are the ones who are working with HTC
msmobiles.com: HTC decided to change it?
Annemarie Duffy: obviously Orange working with HTC
msmobiles.com: itīs not improvement for gamers, itīs step back,
Annemarie Duffy: so this is primarily not designed to be a gaming phone, but it has capability of running rich 3D games
pr: itīs not primarily a gaming dvice
Annemarie Duffy: so itīll have a joystick to plug in to use .. there functionality built-in to the platoffrm to that
Pr: we have only 5 minutes left so... [hurry up, we must end this interview quickly!]
msmobiles.com: most of our readers come from USA and outside of Europe but you are especially [responsible] for Europe, so could you tell me what Microsoftīs marketing efforts are in Europe
Annemarie Duffy: oh gosh, well, in which way?
msmobiles.com: because peple can see huge advertisements from Nokia everywehere
Annemarie Duffy: hm,
msmobiles.com: and from you like almost nobody knows it
Annemarie Duffy: weīre very different obviously from nokia, because we donīt provide a hardware - so itīs a huge differencation obviously and the thing is what we do, is we would market closely with the partners , so on the operator side is all the marketing that we do, joint marketing that we do, we do with the operators, so whether it is working with Orange or working wtih O2 or working with T-Mobile or working with Amina in Spain, so we do a lot of joint marketing efforts...
msmobiles.com: OK, so in this countries where Orange is present itīs nice but what about Germany for example?
Annemarie Duffy: so in Germany, as you know, there is MPx200 available via Debitel, T-Mobile are still on track to launch a smartphone , they havenīt shared yet
msmobiles.com: I have met T-mobile many times on CeBIT and they said that it gonna be "this year launched" and they havenīt launched yet
Annemarie Duffy: I can assure you what we gonna se a phone from tmobile
msmobiles.com: this year? you donīt know...
Annemarie Duffy: I know, but obviously I canīt provide you with this
msmobiles.com: but can you say this year or next year
Annemarie Duffy: unfortunately the reason we canīt provide such kind of information is because it really is going to T-Mobile or Orange...
msmobiles.com: are they evaluating ?
Annemarie Duffy: they [T-Mobile] are still committed to launch a smartphone and as I said itīs not because we donīt want to share the info, but weīre respecting our agreements with network operators
msmobiles.com: they said last year that they will be launching "after summer this year" but nothign happened yet...
msmobiles.com: the new motorola smartphones will be great
Annemarie Duffy: we obviously very ... mpx in which you may not be interested because itīs [pocket pc] phone edition...
msmobiles.com: too big for many people and too expensive - not many people will be using it...
ok, so... last question , regarding 3G, what can you tell me, I was talking with Derek Brown in Switzerland about it and you still didnīt do anything...
Annemarie Duffy: OK
msmobiles.com: I donīt know, time is passing and I see no progress
Annemarie Duffy: so, we are making progress
msmobiles.com: you are making progress in 3G?
Annemarie Duffy: we obviously have people who are working and focused on 3G... what I would say, and this probably what Drek would say as well, we are software vendor, we are working very closely with mobile operators and they have not launched 3G networks yet. A lot of them are in early stages of launching.
msmobiles.com: but there have been commercial launches, Vodafone...
PR: according to you what constitutes progress in 3G?
msmobiles.com: yes, exactly, because I think that it requires also software side, some components for videotelephony, SIP, so maybe itīs the reason why HTC is not launching 3G phones.
Annemarie Duffy: so what I can say is that we are working very closely with some leading hardware manufacturers like Motorola, that are recognized as leaders in 3G, right, you are right that there is a software part to play and we need to support support within the platform. That is something that obviously we are workng on, but I canīt announced anything.
msmobiles.com: so you are saying, that Microsoft is not a reason why there is no 3G Microsoft Smartphone, itīs rather hardware manufacturers... so you are ready from the software side, but I have impression that your software does not have yet all components necessary for 3G like video telephony, some S. I. P. protocol for games, ...,
Annemarie Duffy: yeah, Session Initation Protocol, OK, so what I can say that we have lots of people who are working on software to make sure that it supprots 3G
pr: opreators themsleves are struggling to launch 3G networks..
msmobiles.com: some operators are already offering 2-3 3G phones - so people can go and buy it and I know that Nokia is launching after summer 3G smartphones , not 3G regular phones but also 3 smartphones coming end of this year
Annemarie Duffy: so we are a software vendor working with hardware partners we have team to ensure that we support 3g future versions of a..
msmobiles.com: so you say that you are ready?
Annemarie Duffy: I am not saying that we are ready, I say that we have a team working on it
msmobiles.com: so they are working still on it?
Annemarie Duffy: they are working on it
msmobiles.com: ireally think it requires some software compontents
Annemarie Duffy: absolutely!
msmobiles.com: maybe... these hardware vendors donīt want to launch 3G phones if they donīt have those software components from Microsoft yet
Annemarie Duffy: you are very much aware of investmnets we make on the whole R&D so you can imagine, because...
Annemarie Duffy: you have people working it
msmobiles.com: OK, thank you... you are using this small C500
Annemarie Duffy: what do you think? what are you using?
msmobiles.com: I am using this old one [shows Orange SPV E200]
Annemarie Duffy: right, so itīs E200...
msmobiles.com: the best one that is available by now... but I am thinking about that MPx220 from Motorola - it looks nice - this [points to C500] is only lower resolution camera and Motorola has higher resolution
Annemarie Duffy: but obviousy there will be more choice for our customers - so whether they want clam shell, candy bar, ...
msmobiles.com: "will" - in future time - you always say in future tense
Annemarie Duffy: they are not available yet... and we are working with operators and hardware partners, but the software is ready! you know it is ready to go
msmobiles.com: those motorola phones, some people have impression that they are too big
Annemarie Duffy: the 200?
msmobiles.com: 220 for example - too big
Annemarie Duffy: I think once again, that motorola obvious recognizes as leading handset designer etc that what they are doing is developing phones to meet their target. Their target market for MPx range is realy focused on mobile professionals, so... but itīs more choice for customers
they wanna have a candy bar, a clamshell
pr: Iīll find about SQL..
msmobiles.com: I am also intersted which operators are selling smarpthones directly
Annemarie Duffy: not through distribution
msmobiles.com: through their distribution network, not through some third party shops..
msmobiles.com: sql mobile in microsoft smarpthone - if you could find me some guy who could show me this working in microsoft smartphone, because I donīt believe it. I mean Microsoft smarpthone, not Pocket PC.
[unfortunately we learned that NOBODY from many many Microsoft employees present during the Tech Ed 2004 had SQL Mobile running in MS Smartphone - they had it only in Pocket PC and Tablet PC devices...]
Annemarie Duffy: thank you, I monitor your site, once I used your RSS feed - I had it on my home screen
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