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Yearly scam from Pocket PC Magazine continues : software awards 2005 announced

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Yearly scam from Pocket PC Magazine continues : software awards 2005 announced Reply with quote

Pocket PC Magazine has found a funny way to do something dirty and get away with it:

Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/4541.html
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posting libelous articles without even a hint of proof is cheezy.

Deleting an individual's post when they call you out on your libel, without the courtesy of a PM explaining why, makes your empty boast of "No Censorship" truly laughable.

Once again, here's the link to PC Magazine's "Board of Experts:" http://www.pocketpcmag.com/awards/board_of_experts_2005.asp

I'm sure others will agree this group of folks is not who you describe in your article.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not one to moan, or troll, but i thought i was very objective in my rating of stuff when i was judging, and yes testing 170+ smartphone apps on 4 phones took awhile

looks like a touch of the greeneyedmonster here Neutral

later

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Yearly scam from Pocket PC Magazine continues : software Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_robot wrote:
Clearly this best software awards organized by Pocket PC Magazine is very biased and not objective, so we urge you not to pay attention to the winners but instead to download trial version of given software and try yourself before taking buying decisions!

I don't think that you've "clearly" established bias or non-objectivity. You've laid out why some of the people might have a conflict of interest, but that's all.

As for suggesting downloading trial software before buying it, DUH. Rolling Eyes However, the awards give people a place to start looking for software that may meet their needs. If other people have found it useful, it may be a good program to try first.

msmobiles.com_robot wrote:
The Windows Mobile MVP assignments are pretty much a mess and here in the case of Pocket PC Magazine one can observe it too: several editors and writers for this magazine are awarded MVP although actually they are being paid monthly salaries. Wasn't MVP supposed to be awarded to enthusiasts? Maybe it's not completely false but clearly influence of Pocket PC Magazine is too big and Microsoft should clearly take away MVP title from all editors of Pocket PC Magazine who were ever paid.

Why is an MVP working for Pocket PC Magazine any different than MVPs working for Pocket PC software companies? The important thing is if these people help others and improve the community, not who employs them.

Are you hoping if Microsoft withdraws MVP status from a bunch of people they'll be more likely to offer it you? Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I partially agree with the author of this article. Besides what was said in this article, I would like to add that in each issue there are atleast 8-10 pages of "advertisement" of best software CD/programs which is wastage of space IMHO.

Being said that, each magazine has to generate some revenue so I think by selling these best of software cds is one way to accomplish the goal. I just wish they had a better way to acheive the same goal. As far as ratings go, I tend to disagree with some of the winners. However, the difference of quality/features between Winner and finalist is minimal and it's subjective. After all judges are human beings and they have certain pref. It starts to make more sense about the winners after I read follow-up articles as to why Judges chose that particular program. Some features of a program that may not be important for me could be important from programing point of view. I do agree with author to have an online voting system. I also agree with author to download trials...I have changed my mind on several occasions and bought a "non-winner" program based on my personal pref and needs. Nevertheless, interesting article although seems a tad bit biased.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:55 pm    Post subject: People's Choice Reply with quote

SPPassion wrote:
I do agree with author to have an online voting system.

I also think that a "People's Choice" award system would be good. So why doesn't MS Mobiles start one? Very Happy

However, imagine all of the losers voting for their own crappy programs multiple times (the same people who post their software over and over at Handango and other places). There would need to be a good anti-fraud system to make any such awards meaningful.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPPassion wrote:
I partially agree with the author of this article. Besides what was said in this article, I would like to add that in each issue there are atleast 8-10 pages of "advertisement" of best software CD/programs which is wastage of space IMHO.


exactly! and certainly those who advertise influence the magazine's choices.

anyway: voiting should be possible for all - like it is at www.podcastalley.com - and not just for judges.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:37 am    Post subject: Too Bad It's Not Your Site Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
SPPassion wrote:
I partially agree with the author of this article. Besides what was said in this article, I would like to add that in each issue there are atleast 8-10 pages of "advertisement" of best software CD/programs which is wastage of space IMHO.

exactly! and certainly those who advertise influence the magazine's choices.

anyway: voiting should be possible for all - like it is at www.podcastalley.com - and not just for judges.

You know what? It's their site and they get to run their awards the way they want. It would be nice if anybody could vote, but how would you address the potential for fraud?

Of course, if you don't like the way they do the awards, why not do what I suggested an run your own awards voting?

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