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msmobiles.com_robot · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215

TCMP player is an audio and video player for Windows Mobile smartphone and Pocket PC. At first glance it looks as a valueable and free tool for playback of various audio and video formats.

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gavinfabl · Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 36

your comments are crap.

windows media player 9 or 10 cannot play half the formats that TCPMP does.

It also has numerous extras, graphic equaliser, plays video at much higher frames etc.

The download bit is unfair.

I downloaded v0.7 no problem.

The AAC bit was removed due to potential lawsuits.

guest · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 5

I agree with gavinfabl...

- the fact is that some formats(afaik only AAC) cannot be played is not corecodecs fault. Remember this is freeware and(!) opensource. therefore licening isseus are always a problem. If you just had posted your problem at the corecodec forum about this, you probably have had the awnser about where to download a AAC plugin (I don't have it but remember seeing a recent one), Picard (the developer) always kindly response to any question ...

- "anything essentially more than Windows Mobile Player". ehmn I don't what kinds of formats you use, but probably not more than WMV files and AAC...
WmPlayer support propably not more than 3 fileformats. while TCPMP supports 13(!).....

- you have no right to complain about advertisement. msmobile also some nice (flashy) adds.....

- Whats wrong about advertisement... especially when you spent allot(!) (on your own) of time in this project. So if you really don't like to see adds. give him a nice fat donation.

Remember that it is still under development...

So next time make some constructive critisism and stop whining or, even better, build a better player yourself :p

cheers...

slem1 · Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1

You might check your facts for this so-called "review."

The sarcasm aside ("silent podcasts" - hmm Rolling Eyes

), the AAC codec in TCPMP was removed from the binary distribution at the request of the patent holders. The developer politely complied - I hestitate to think that we would have had him do otherwise. Contrary to your post, this was done some time ago - not in the .70 release. It was fully disclosed and discussed at length in the TCPMP forums.

A visit to those forums would also reveal that just because the official AAC codec was no longer being distributed, that did not mean that AAC is not fully supported by the application itself.

AAC support was _NOT_ removed. There are dozens of threads discussing the options for AAC playback in the TCPMP forums. Just one example: http://www.corecodec.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=29&expv=0&topic=1843.msg12228#msg12228. I suggest you read it. Maybe take a look at some of the other facts while you're there.

Let's even assume for a moment that there wasn't that AAC option, though. Can you really believe that ludicrous conclusion you wrote? Not worth a download? Have you actually _used_ TCPMP? It plays almost anything you throw at it. Videos, audio, pictures. Did you read anything else in the list other than the part you bolded? Name another player that has this kind of massive file support:

Supported file containers
- AVI (*.avi)
- Matroska (*.mkv, *.mka)
- MP4 (*.mp4, *.m4a)
- Ogg Media (*.ogg, *.ogm)
- ASF (*.asf)

Supported audio codecs
- Mpeg 1 Layer III
- Ogg Vorbis
- Musepack
- Windows Media Audio (on Windows Mobile devices)
- AC-3
- AMR
- Adpcm, uLaw

Supported video codecs
- DivX
- XviD
- MPEG4-SP (plus B-frame support)
- MPEG1
- M-JPEG
- Windows Media Video (on Windows Mobile devices)

And now name one that costs the same.

I agree with one thing you wrote: Reality is different. Check your facts.

Thanks for that last part, though, what with including the download link to an application not worth downloading. Must've been some kind of cruel reverse psychology thing, eh?

Cheers. Very Happy

Galt · Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 2

This is total crap. I’ve NEVER seen a more inaccurate “news” post on any site. The accusation that TCPMP “…doesn't deserve a download, because it doesn't bring anything essentially more than Windows Mobile Player” is one of the worst lies I’ve ever heard. Not only does TCPMP, a totally free product, have so much more functionality than WMP (see detailed post above mine), it’s also so much easier to use and has numerous options for configuration. Everyone who I’ve shown this software to has been amazed that it so substantially outperforms the included WMP. And now that many types of media streaming is broken in the WMP version 10 included in WM5 devices, it makes even less sense to favorably compare WMP to TCPMP.

The author of this post makes a claim I’ve never seen anywhere on the internet, that ACC is “the most usable file format”… Where the heck does (s)he come up with that? Regardless of his/her personal preference, the removal of the ACC codec from their distribution, is unfortunate but doesn’t spell the end of this being a useful product. And claiming that TCPMP “is not freeware but it is a visitware: one can't get direct download link to the player but one must go through several pages, each with many advertisements...” seems purposely ignorant of the fact that almost any site on the internet that hosts files for free download throws some ads up to help pay for the cost of the bandwidth. And the claim of "must go through several pages" is easily refuted - it took me TWO CLICKS (one per page) to download the new version from the main site! At least the TCPMP page doesn’t include browser pop-ups like http://www.freewareppc.com/ or those annoying imbedded ad words in the text of their forums like MSMobiles does, in fact the ads on the TCPMP site are rather tame by comparison to most other sites.

I've long wondered if MSMobiles "inflammatory" comments and news posts were just the result of someone's broken English translator, bad upbringing, or actual malevolence, but I think I now know the truth - MSMobiles just posts inflammatory stories like this one to generate a commotion, to drive up web traffic, to increase ad revenue. That’s straight up despicable. I think an apology is owed to the developers of TCPMP.

This article was helpful in one way though, I’d been meaning to make a donation to the TCPMP development team as I’m constantly overwhelmed by how awesome their software is. Today gave me a good reason to do so, and thanks to the MSMobiles link to the TCPMP site my PayPal donation was made today! If anyone else wants to do so, it's an option on the menu on the left side of this screen: http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/about

Galt

hkultraman · Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 9

I don't think it is disappoint. The s/w is an open source project which is just developed by a single man. This s/w is a well-known best player for WM and also Palm OS.

I can say that not much people can write such a good s/w with limited time. You know the developer of TCPMP is just a part time developer.

kupe · Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 513

Yet another clueless report. TCPMP is, without a doubt, THE best multimedia product available for the PPC. Just because this site openly supports patent infringements and intellectual property theft doesn't mean the honest developers need to do the same in order to satisfy your fast-n-loose, law-breaking attitude.

jeffreii · Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 65

if u guys are done flaming the author i'd like to know if the upgrades in this version warrant a download? i am currently using version .66 on my apache and it works great...should i download .70 to get new functionality or keep .66 to keep AAC support?

your opinions are greatly appreciated.

thanks,

-jeff

guest · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 5

Hope the flames aren't out yet. It's too deserved. You know he does this stuff just to get these reactions anyway. Freedom of speech my a$$.

On your question, I'd say do both. Download 0.70 and keep AAC. The new version will still use the old plugin, it's just not being distributed officially anymore.

That's what the flames are for - misinformation.

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bleugh · Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 1

I'm sorry here, but what a Pretentious news post Sad

I've held off registering on this site until now, but your unjustified slating of the player has Irked me enough to voice myself

the player is functionally MUCH better, faster and more tweakable than the built in MS mediaplayer (just you try getting full screen on any video type with the built in player)

HAVE YOU ACTUALLY USED THE SOFTWARE?????

somehow I doubt it Sad

I've been reading MSmobiles for a while now, and the level of main page posts has pretty much been reduced to the petty bitching level

Please dont abuse your potential here and make this website a no go area,
it was a great, frequently updated news source at one time, if the bitter news posts continue, I for one will stop coming here, and will recommend that others also stop

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