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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: HTC goes to Europe Reply with quote

By now majority of sales of phones manufactured by HTC from Taiwan has taken place in Europe - to mobile operators from Europe and their subscribers - so it is natural that now, after several years since HTC started...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HTC only unleashed its lawyers on you because you had obtained privileged and commercially sensitive information about its product plans for the next twelve months. Every organisation has a right to protect its interests and to prevent information which could compromise its future success from being leaked by stupid tossers who think they're being clever.

Whether you're a Windows Mobile supporter or not makes no difference; HTC are entitled to protect their interests.

Incidentally, now that HTC have officially established a presence in the United Kingdom, we'll be seeing even more of that lovely corporate accountability and operational transparency, which of course means that any possibility of Dopod being a "secret arm" of HTC will have to be made publicly available. Can't say I'm holding my breath for that announcement myself.

I look forward to reading your official retraction of your earlier lies about Dopod being a covert HTC division, as I'm sure HTC does too.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thelondonthing wrote:

I look forward to reading your official retraction of your earlier lies about Dopod being a covert HTC division, as I'm sure HTC does too.


I didn't say that! It's not the same thing. I just said that there are close relationships between HTC and Dopod.
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PassingThru



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thelondonthing wrote:
Every organisation has a right to protect its interests and to prevent information which could compromise its future success from being leaked by stupid tossers who think they're being clever.


With respect, I understand your point, but we the consumers love getting hold of this advance information. Bollox to business interests. I wonder how many ideas they 'absorbed' whilst producing for other corporations?

I guess it depends which side of the fence you sit. Between you and me, if something gets leaked and a competitor pounces on the idea and runs with it, then there is more competition. Not nice for business (lol), excellent for we the consumers.

Anyway, I guess that's why HTC are expanding globally ... because msmobiles are threatening their future business (LOL).

Again, with respect, it is you who are the tosser (if you step back and look at this relatively).

Personally, I have no allegiance with msmobiles, I am (from a consumer point of view) a staunch Symbian supporter. Their phones - that I have so far used - are FAR more stable than Microsoft and reliable. So, many of the things msmobiles say irks me. But from a business point of view, I have to accept that Microsoft products are more convenient to use (imo) - I have an Eten M500 for biz (at the moment). So I check this place out to see what's around the corner.

Ok, the editorial isn't all up to the quality of the Financial Times, ok, but so what? ...

As a collection of what might be coming up next at Windows Mobile, it's not bad and it's regularly updated. Even if it's nicked from another website, lol, I don't care. I just want the info, and it's kept up to date here. Some of the software ideas that are brought up prompt me and I use it with the Symbian platform. The joy of flowing information that people like you would restrict. Also, this place is free, to me, because I -choose- to come here.

Why do you choose to be here?

Regards.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now that HTC is in th EU...them Msmobiles should watch out as its much much more easier for them to get him and all his worldly goods !! so looks like that will at least improve one aspect of this site
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite frankly I am surprised this site is not sued more often. Some of the articles are simply incorrect and extremely biased. HTC have every right to sue in what they believe are there interests and I am pretty sure any company in a similar position also would.

What I really dislike about this site is it sees everything through Microsoft Windows Mobile tinted glasses. For example saying Microsoft are getting 'with it' because WM5 in a few months if we are lucky will be to provide support for A2DP and the severe shortcomings inthe Microsoft bluetooth stack. Symbian based devices and PPC 2003SE devices have had A2DP support for at least six months. It does not comment that a symbian based device can transfer contacts, photos, ringtones etc to any other phone brand bar a microsoft device containing the bluetooth stack.

This site should be a constructive critique of WM5 and promote it properly highlighting its severe shortcomings as well as advantageous features then maybe those people at Microsoft will actually provide solutions to the issues many people have with it. The blow smoke up microsofts ass does nothing but make the sit elook unprofessional, biased and cleary unreliable.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
thelondonthing wrote:

I look forward to reading your official retraction of your earlier lies about Dopod being a covert HTC division, as I'm sure HTC does too.


I didn't say that! It's not the same thing. I just said that there are close relationships between HTC and Dopod.


Actually, you said that Dopod was a "secret arm" of HTC. That's a lot more specific than saying that they just have a close relationship, and implies that there is a financial, interdependent connection between them that extends beyond trade into 'family'. A close relationship is one thing, but to say that they're a "secret arm" takes it beyond that, and effectively says that they're Dopod is a covert subsidiary of HTC.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a site that claims to be uncensored, it is funny how you cut out 4-5 posts off this thread....

I guess you couldn't handle the truth...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suwat wrote:

Msmobiles deleted my post below.


Suwat, go and create your own website and write there whatever you want. Here be careful: criticism is allowed but you are more than criticizing, you are flaming!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nskgti23 wrote:
For a site that claims to be uncensored, it is funny how you cut out 4-5 posts off this thread....

I guess you couldn't handle the truth...


criticism is fine but slandering msmobiles.com with lies is another thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thelondonthing wrote:

Actually, you said that Dopod was a "secret arm" of HTC. That's a lot more specific than saying that they just have a close relationship, and implies that there is a financial, interdependent connection between them that extends beyond trade into 'family'. A close relationship is one thing, but to say that they're a "secret arm" takes it beyond that, and effectively says that they're Dopod is a covert subsidiary of HTC.


thelondonthing: "secret arm" can be interpreted in many ways. Please note also that issue between HTC and msmobiles.com has been resolved and I can't comment more about it. It belongs to the past however. If HTC really would not stop persecuting msmobiles.com and this issue would not be resolved, then maybe msmobiles.com would reveal more about Dopod, HTC and these things. As of now: the issue between msmobiles.com and HTC is resolved and the matter is closed. Also: msmobiles.com is pro-actively supporting also HTC products - as well as all other Windows Mobile phones.

suwat: I removed your posts because they contained too much general flaming. Please try to write ON TOPIC related to given news item - instead of spreading general flaming - then we can discuss.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
nskgti23 wrote:
For a site that claims to be uncensored, it is funny how you cut out 4-5 posts off this thread....

I guess you couldn't handle the truth...


criticism is fine but slandering msmobiles.com with lies is another thing.


Just as slandering HTC or Microsoft with lies is...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nskgti23 wrote:

Just as slandering HTC or Microsoft with lies is...


what lies? be specific!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You twist every single fact about microsoft and HTC to make them look bad or incompetent. I'm not saying either is perfect by any means, but they do have the most compelling smart phone OS and devices available. The Palm and Symbian OS are both total jokes. Linux has potential, but there is really no standard for the OS yet...

As for Windows Mobile devices, no one has delivered any consistency other than HTC. So until someone else comes out with 3-4 solid devices, HTC is the only OEM with a leg worth standing on....
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nskgti23 wrote:
So until someone else comes out with 3-4 solid devices, HTC is the only OEM with a leg worth standing on....


both ETEN and Motorola delivered 3-4 solid devices powered by Windows Mobile.
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