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Windows Mobile 5.0 users ask impatiently: when we will be able to push it ?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Windows Mobile 5.0 users ask impatiently: when we will be able to push it ? Reply with quote

We have answered this question already many times: the component for push e-mail for Windows Mobile 5.0 will be included in a ROM upgrade that will be distributed next year (around March 2006), but apparently users ...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word from a T-Mobile rep in the US is that they were waiting to deploy the Vario until a patch came out from MS. It sounds like this is the patch they are waiting for. Which stinks as that means it will be awhile until the Vario is released in the US.
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EJR



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpalmer99 wrote:
Word from a T-Mobile rep in the US is that they were waiting to deploy the Vario until a patch came out from MS. It sounds like this is the patch they are waiting for. Which stinks as that means it will be awhile until the Vario is released in the US.


thanks for this news item! Please note however that Microsoft is releasing several patches to manufacturers so it is by no means certain that T-Mobile USA means this push email upgrade...
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kieranEire



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm once again this site has show poor investigation. Luckily I am here to keep things rite.

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New service from Vodafone supports both BlackBerry and Windows Mobile based email push. Symbian devices clearly are handicapped because although they can run RIM BlackBerry client (as Windows Mobile phones), they cannot utilize (cheaper and better than BlackBerry) push email provided by MS Exchange. Only Windows Mobile 5.0 phones can do it...


Vodaphone selected to use the Visto solution for push email. Also yahoo also provide a push email service for a monthly fee of 2.99 again based on visto. Microsoft, HP and Accenture solutions failed in their bids.

Nokia and other symbian based phones have also licensed the ActiveSync protocol so we will have Symbian based phones using the Microsoft ActiveSync with Exhange.

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Direct push is designed to minimize the effect to e-mail traffic. For example, the synchronization operations that are performed in direct push are targeted at only those folders that contain changes, so you’re never issuing a lot of empty synchronizations as you would with a scheduled or manual synchronization.

see
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/mobility_sp2.mspx


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Exchange 2003 also offers the added Exchange Server 2003 also offers the out-of-the-box,ready to go features of Server ActiveSync®,which enables users Exchange Server ActiveSync ®,which enables directly with their Exchange users to synchronize directly with their from their devices.These Exchange mailboxes from their Windows reduce the based mobile devices.

from the pdf at
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/business/strategy/mobilesolutions.mspx


These quotes from Microsoft clearly say that Direct push email is clearly actually a form of synchronization desined to reduce data transmissions.

Maybe you should actually do a little research into the articles before you post them. Being pro Microsoft is fine though constructive critism is healthy being inacurate is not.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kieranEire: if it is is synchronization and not true push email then why Microsoft uses the term "push" at all then?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Ballmer defined "Direct Push Technology" as the delivery of e-mail to mobile devices without any action on the part of the user. Microsoft are really using the term "Direct Push Technology"

Microsofts system is actually closer to IntelliSyncs SyncML solution not RIMS blackberry or Vistos true push email solution.

see
http://www.intellisync.com/pages/Products/SyncML/

Microsoft are not hidding this fact, a key hint is in the name of the protocal ActiveSync. I have already published not one but 2 Microsoft links where they clearly say "Direct Push Technology" is syncing email folders. There are many more examples.
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