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 Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: Handango leaks information that Palm Treo 700 will be released at CES |
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In this story we mention Motorola Q, Palm Treo 700w and sales of pirated software at Handango...
Handango writes:
Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/4687.html |
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mingebag
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sure if you send an email to whoever owns those roms, they will come down on them like a ton of bricks. Then again, maybe you already have and they do have the legal right to sekll those roms...??? |
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Reality
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: I love bias in the morning. |
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The software you linked to was only added 3 days ago and was already deactivated. Did you doublecheck your story or just run with it? This is why I go to <removed> for my WM news.
Interesting scoop about the Treo 700 though. |
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BeyondtheTech
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Please explain "deactivated." I just clicked on the link and the product is still there and one can still click on the "Add to Cart" button.
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: I love bias in the morning. |
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| Reality wrote: | | The software you linked to was only added 3 days ago and was already deactivated. Did you doublecheck your story or just run with it? |
it is not deactivated - it can be purchased - I just tried and it works.
the story is triple-checked and Handango's underhanded practices have been described at msmobiles.com several times, so it is no big news - just reminder that Handango still does it. |
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BeyondtheTech
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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You bought it?!? Post it for all to share. Hahaha....
I wonder if these scammers actually get cut a check by Handango. I think you have to give them personal information, such as Tax ID and mailing address... Then again, they could populate those fields with a fake ID and P.O. Box.
I dunno, I just dunno...
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| BeyondtheTech wrote: | You bought it?!? Post it for all to share. Hahaha....
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No I haven't - but I proceeded to check out, etc and Handango wanted me to give credit card, etc - so it works - it is not deactivated. |
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Pony99CA
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: I love bias in the morning. |
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| Reality wrote: | | The software you linked to was only added 3 days ago and was already deactivated. Did you doublecheck your story or just run with it? This is why I go to <removed> for my WM news. |
What was <removed>, Reality? Did you remove it or were you censored at this "uncensored" forum?
As for Handango, I also wonder whether the Web master (I can't type his name -- it gets censored!) contacted them or not. I asked before how he expected then to police all of the software up there without any help from users. I don't recall getting a good answer, though.
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: I love bias in the morning. |
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| Pony99CA wrote: |
As for Handango, I also wonder whether the Web master (I can't type his name -- it gets censored!) contacted them or not. I asked before how he expected then to police all of the software up there without any help from users. I don't recall getting a good answer, though.
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Handango should take care that they don't sell pirated software and not users.
msmobiles.com will not be contacting Handango in each petty case, but is just observing facts like: Handango ripping off developers (taking away 60% of money) and selling illegal content. If a supermarket would be selling illegal stolen goods, then police would not say "they didn't know about law so we can't persecute them" but would right away jail personnel for not taking care for it.
And Pony99CA are you affiliate of Handango? Most Windows Mobile dedicated sites are affiliate of Handango so either are keeping mum about underhanded practices of Handango or are defending it. Answer this question and let's concentrate on the topic. Off topic remarks will be considered as flaming and removed. |
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Pony99CA
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:13 am Post subject: Re: I love bias in the morning. |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | Pony99CA wrote: |
As for Handango, I also wonder whether the Web master (I can't type his name -- it gets censored!) contacted them or not. I asked before how he expected then to police all of the software up there without any help from users. I don't recall getting a good answer, though.
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Handango should take care that they don't sell pirated software and not users. |
Yes, they should, but things can still slip through the cracks. Would you want to held responsible for every post made to your forum? You're not charging us money, so I realize it's not quite the same, but it's not too bad an analogy.
| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | msmobiles.com will not be contacting Handango in each petty case, but is just observing facts like: Handango ripping off developers (taking away 60% of money) and selling illegal content. If a supermarket would be selling illegal stolen goods, then police would not say "they didn't know about law so we can't persecute them" but would right away jail personnel for not taking care for it. |
So, in other words, you won't do anything to really try to fix the problem. Got it.
By the way, police know that a lot of stolen goods are sold at pawn shops, but most of them don't get busted, do they?
As for "observing facts", saying that Handango takes 60% of sales from a developer may be a fact (I don't know the exact percentage, so I'll assume you're right). However, saying that Handango is "ripping off developers" is an opinion, not a fact. As far as I know, no developer is forced to list their software with Handango. And what percentage of sales does Pocket Gear take?
My opinion (what you'd probably call a fact) is that you have some bias against Handango. When that scumbag posted a rip-off program at Handango and Pocket Gear, you only criticized Handango for listing it. Why didn't you criticize Pocket Gear, too? I asked this question back then, but you didn't answer it.
| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | And Pony99CA are you affiliate of Handango? Most Windows Mobile dedicated sites are affiliate of Handango so either are keeping mum about underhanded practices of Handango or are defending it. Answer this question and let's concentrate on the topic. |
How is my being a Handango affiliate or not on topic? Can't you do a little research (like, um, visiting my site -- a link to it is at the end of every post I make)? You manage to find illegal software on Handango but can't figure out that I have absolutely no affiliation with Handango (other than having purchased less than $1 from them and downloading several free programs).
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EJR
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: Re: I love bias in the morning. |
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| Pony99CA: firstly I removed personal attack parts from your post and I wish you will not do it again or I will ban you. Secondly: Handango is dominating market of mobile software and over 90% of it goes through Handango so it is important to notice that very often Handango sells stolen content while others sell it rarely and by coincidence. Lastly: stay on topic! No personal attacks will be allowed here. |
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kupe
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:49 am Post subject: Re: I love bias in the morning. |
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| Pony99CA wrote: | | As for "observing facts", saying that Handango takes 60% of sales from a developer may be a fact (I don't know the exact percentage, so I'll assume you're right). However, saying that Handango is "ripping off developers" is an opinion, not a fact. As far as I know, no developer is forced to list their software with Handango. And what percentage of sales does Pocket Gear take? |
I was wondering the same thing too. Is it some international law that all PPC developers must sell their wares on Handango? Or, like most of the marketplace, are developers presented with options?
Nearly 20,000 PPC programs worth of developers have chosen Handango as their distributor. If you believe msmobiles, every one of those developers have been tricked by Handango into selling their wares for a loss while Handango makes huge bucks (at proces like $4.95 a pop  ). Ockham's Razor leads me to believe Handango provides such a good service they actually attract developers to use it. |
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Metoo
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: I love bias in the morning. |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | Pony99CA wrote: |
As for Handango, I also wonder whether the Web master (I can't type his name -- it gets censored!) contacted them or not. I asked before how he expected then to police all of the software up there without any help from users. I don't recall getting a good answer, though.
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msmobiles.com forums
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- no brown-nosing
- independent from Microsoft
- whole truth, not half the truth
I suggest the "web master" take note of the rules in his own banner. This is just the kind of hypocrisy that makes him the laughing stock he is. |
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PPCMD
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| I would like to see a real alternative to Handango rise up and take them on. Developers should band together in a consortium to promote and share in the profits. Problem is you will need someone to act as the back office and manage the operation. Some developers do sell their apps directly and I personally prefer that route so they can actually make money to support their apps. |
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Reality
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:03 am Post subject: Re: I love bias in the morning. |
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| Pony99CA wrote: | | Reality wrote: | | The software you linked to was only added 3 days ago and was already deactivated. Did you doublecheck your story or just run with it? This is why I go to <removed> for my WM news. |
What was <removed>, Reality? Did you remove it or were you censored at this "uncensored" forum? |
I linked to a competing news site. I expected it to be censored but no fault in that.
I also expect that msmobiles will continue to post biased and wrong information in order to garner more viewers with their mud slinging. They are the equivalent of a trashy tabloid. Dispute that if you can, Mr Moderator, but your "article" archive speaks volumes. |
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