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msmobiles.com_robot · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215

Its not really a surprise that Cingular stores don't have the Cingular 2125
in stock yet, most managers don't even know what it is, makes sense since the
device was officially released just this week. Of all t...

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ivan · Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

I think Adam's contacting the wrong stores if all he's getting from retail employees and managers is a big "duh". I work for a Cingular Wireless company-owned retail store within 5 miles of Microsoft's main campus in Redmond. 90% of our store's business is Microsoft employees. We've seen development devices in this Faraday/Tornado line, as well as the Wizard line for well over six months now. I'd say each employee in this store has a waiting list of at least 10 customers wanting to be notified of this device's release. For the record - the device was released to our warehouse on Monday, the same day it went live on the website. Our order for the device was pushed through Thursday, and we're likely expecting delivery of the 2125 today or Monday. I'm glad to see that we're getting these directly from HTC now, produced for us, rather than having to go through middle-men - UTStarcom/Audiovox & Siemens. I think that in itself has shaved months off the wait-time for this and the upcoming 8125. Now, as far as the lack of wi-fi goes - many of my customers have the unbranded HTC T-Mobile SDAII's. The consensus is that the wi-fi is novel for about the first week... then it goes unused. Wi-fi will be more beneficial with the 8125, with its larger screen-size

pcman · Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 2

the power button needs to be push towards the screen (down) not in
I found this to be a problem also and had to use a PEN. but noticed it pushes down not in after a few tries

when you push it down while on it give you a menu to power off or change profile

BUT PUSH IT DOWN TOWARDS THE SCREEN

adam · Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 7 Location: USA

Ivan,

Thanks for your comment! I am very glad that you are aware of the 2125 and the 8125 devices. However, I still hold the opinion that currently most Cingular employees are unaware of these devices. As you have pointed out, you are 5 miles from the Redmond Campus, and you have seen pre-release devices.

For most customers in North America, the situation is completely different. Many Cingular managers and employees are unaware of Windows Mobile, or devices that do not come from Nokia, Motorola, or Samsung. I am certain this will change when the device has been available for a while, and is in stock at local stores, but right now that is not the case. If you don't agree, drive to Tacoma, and see if anyone there is aware of the Cingular 2125.

WiFi like you say is not a big concern, but it is a concern when you consider future technology direction. EDGE while an improvement over GPRS simply cannot handle many networking tasks efficiently. I have seen data rates over edge from 155 Kbps to 60 Kbps, with an average of about 85 KBps. WiFi (802.11b) will provide 800 Kbps. This is acceptable when downloading MP3/WMA files, but not when you want to download larger files and media.

Of course most consumers will at most download 128 k WMA/MP3, or MPEG4/MPEG2 video that is encoded for a small device. While the power users will have a Windows Mobile Pocket PC. This leads me to believe that EDGE is sufficient for the Cingular 2125, but of course WiFi would be welcomed with open arms.

Again, thanks for your comments.

Adam
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adam · Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 7 Location: USA

pcman,

Thanks for the great tip, that works like a charm. Our position is still that the power button is awful, it's not very intuitive to 'slide' the power button, versus pressing it.

TIP: (courtesy pcman)
When operating the power button on the Cingular 2125, you will want to press the button to turn the device on/off or access the profiles. Do not press the button into the device, instead push-slide the button towards the screen.

Adam
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pcman · Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 2

Yes this phone you need to keep a few finger nails longer then others to operate.
I was used to the smt5600 rocker switch now I'm trying to get used to the center selection button but it's still better.
I can now get the power button off/on in one try
but this should have been noted in the user manual

adam · Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 7 Location: USA

pcman,

The Audiovox SMT5600 rocker pad was horrible. I expect the new joystick will come to you very easily. There is a slight learning curve, but it's not noticeable when you have already had a device with one. The joystick is better than the Orange C550, and other devices that used a joystick. It's a subtle difference, but the joystick is slightly more inset that the previous devices and it makes it much less prone to accidental presses. Which was another huge problem with the SMT5600 rocker switch.

Again, thanks for the great tip about the power button, after practicing a bit, it's easy to get almost every time now. Really makes the device a lot better!

Adam
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SnozBerries · Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 37

adam · Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 7 Location: USA

SnozBerries,

This was for roughly 60 megs of WMA files, a CD of music files that were compressed. The download time comes in at around 80 Kbps, which is well under the max I have seen, but is a real word figure. Since the download was with multiple files and a large transfer, this example should be similar to what most people will see in real world situations.

I expect some people may see a better download time, given great reception. Possibly 60 MB in 25 minutes, but it simply wasn't the case when I tried it.

Adam
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ivan · Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

sigmamason · Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 6

Ivan,

I know that you can't speak on everything, but any qwerty devices in the upcoming releases? Cool

ivan · Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

dwellers · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 3 Location: SF Bay Area

I received my 2125 on Thursday and am enjoying it. Few things:

Screen is beautiful. What a step up from the 5600.

Keys are a lot nicer in general (power switch excluded). Much nicer entering text and phone numbers.

In an interesting twist, I use GoodLink which there is a direct link to on the 2125. Problem is that the over-the-air installation will not work due to lack of available space. Did anyone test this? I was able to get it to load but had to use the cable option rather than OTA. Good is investigating...

I don't really get the memory configuration of "storage" memort and "program" memory. Is there any way to adjust this like on PPC? I have installed GoodLink and one other program (eWallet) and the phone complains from time to time that I need to remove some stuff to free up memory. This could be a major problem.

No problems with a 1GB mini-SD card.

Movies play quite nicely with this processor. No flickering or skipping.

The included STEREO headphones/mic combo are a nice addition. Not great sound quality but they are there in a pinch.

Vibrate seems a bit timid to me. Missed a couple of calls. Speakerphone is great though.

Joystick is nice but I find left/right selections to be difficult. Perhaps a longer thumbnail is required.

Figuring out that the nine icons on a screen map to 1-9 on the keypad made navigation much easier!

No driver for the Stowaway bluetooth keyboard yet. They have said that it should be available late December.

By the way, with a business account with Cingular (very easy to setup, I do them all the time for clients), you can get the phone for $169.99. That's an amazing deal really.

--David

SmithAtlanta · Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 2

It worked nicely with my bluetooth freedom mini keyboard. It actually works more cleanly with this phone than my 2005 upgraded Dell Axim X5. The typing on the Axim had some hesitation but the 2125 is instantaneous.

As for the joystick, it does take some getting used to especially if your thumb is split like mine is. Sad

Overall, I have to give it a big thumbs up over my MPX220. It's much more snappy and the browsing speed seems faster.

One thing I did already was install a screen protector. The holster material seems to come off on the phone(but it can be wiped off).

dwellers · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 3 Location: SF Bay Area

I'm wondering how you got your mini keyboard to work? I am able to have it recognized and connect (there is no passkey right?).

Thanks!