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msmobiles.com_robot
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 Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject: Microsoft is shipping the first phone with push e-mail !!! The revolution started. |
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Visto suing Microsoft and asking Microsoft to stop delivery of push email technology because it allegedly violates Visto's patents? Microsoft couldn't care less: the first Pocket PC phone with AKU (Adaptation Kit ...
Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/4701.html |
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bennie
Joined: 19 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:18 am Post subject: Taiwan only |
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| I wonder if it's only in taiwan becuase the visto patents don't apply there?? |
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EJR
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Taiwan only |
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| bennie wrote: | | I wonder if it's only in taiwan becuase the visto patents don't apply there?? |
theoretically it's true but practically Gigabyte is selling hardware to USA and it could be sued from USA thus. |
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quagmire
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| And Microsoft is going to take it in the a$$ just like RIMM. Funny how you boast about Microsoft's lack of caring re: Visto lawsuit yet RIMM is villified by you. Nice try. |
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PPCMD
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Either way the cats out of the bag and MS must now deliver this feature to their other carriers and ODM's, OEM's etc. Business and consumer customers will no longer wait.
If MS is truly in violation of any Visto patents, they can buy them or drag it out until a reasonable settlement is reached. |
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EJR
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| PPCMD wrote: | Either way the cats out of the bag and MS must now deliver this feature to their other carriers and ODM's, OEM's etc. Business and consumer customers will no longer wait.
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yes! Now "the cat is out of the bag" and customers will no longer accept lack of A2DP and push direct in their phones. Moreover: customers will be purposefully waiting for appearance of such phones. After all it may happen that given phone will NOT be upgraded to AKU2. It IS possible. So why to risk if you can buy a phone with AKU2 pre-installed? |
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kieranEire
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Vistos patents will not apply in Tiawan, However as far as I am aware there patents are registered in the US, UK and in Europe. A patent will apply to imported goods. So Microsoft are clearly not in defience of Vistos patent claims yet. Its clear however that Microsft have the update ready for distribution and since they are not distributing it in a patent protected region they clearly are being cautious and seeing how the Visto/smartner/seven cases go.
As far as Microsoft buying Visto out thats fair enough, though the net result will be the same they will have to have paid to use another companies intellectual property. Though remember I hear NTP are expecting 1 billion from RIM for use of its US patents. Thats a lot of money for a so called free update.
Microsoft have to start hiring people who have innovative ideas and come up with there own solution instead of hiring people from companies like Smartner and the result being similar possibly patent infringing solutions. |
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kvee
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:29 am Post subject: |
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2 - 3 months ahead of schedule. I wonder why that is !!
It remains to be seen if Gigabyte / Microsoft get served with injunctions preventing sales of this phone. |
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BeyondtheTech
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Aaaaaugh! I still can't confirm if there is an English-based ROM for this device, can't seem to get a hold of anyone at Gigabyte, nor any resellers or resellers-to-be can get any confirmation either. I just want to move on if it's all in Taiwanese or Mandarin, or put my money down already.
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VinnieMac
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Doesn't matter if the phone supports push. Exchange MSFP hasn't been released yet. |
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BeyondtheTech
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Great news!
I received news from Sage at Kemplar.com who got a hold of his Asian contacts regarding the Gigabyte gSmart Phone:
| Quote: | I received a reply saying that the unit wasn't expected to begin shipping until Q1 (hopefully January.) It will, however, be available in English.
 Sage |
I was afraid that we'd see another Asian device with all the bells and whistles many people would want, but slapped with a non-English ROM and interface that most of us here wouldn't be able to understand.
I'm thinking the device should be right around the corner, since all the press is buzzing about it and many are saying it's already "released." But, the fact that it will be available in English makes for yet another possible option to choose from, not just HTC and E-TEN anymore. Let's hope MMB can get his hands on a few of these!
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BeyondtheTech
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like that feedback form on their website WORKED after all!
from Peifang Hung at Gigabyte:
| Quote: | Currently we have just launched g-Smart Chinese edition in Taiwan only. In about a month, the English edition will be available, possibly under a different brand, carried by your local distributor.
TV (NTSC/PAL) and FM work in the States. However, the TV signal is weak in certain areas. We tried it in the Bay area (CA); the TV signal is ok in suburban areas, but not so clear in the city where the high rises reflect the signals and the signals become noisy.
If you are an individual consumer, please wait just a little longer. It is coming soon in your area.
Yours,
Peifang |
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EJR
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| BeyondtheTech wrote: | Looks like that feedback form on their website WORKED after all!
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Very cool, although a little bit vague. Anyway: in Europe the DVB-T digital television is standard and analog television is something of the past, so they may have some problems with marketing of this phone in Europe.. but probably for USA it would be more interesting...
anyway : I want it because it has FM radio, not because of TV. |
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madboggar
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| When will these gigabyte phones be released in Europe. I was going to get the ETen M600 but will prob wait for this |
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bennie
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| VinnieMac wrote: | | Doesn't matter if the phone supports push. Exchange MSFP hasn't been released yet. |
AKU 2 contains the Messaging and Security Feature Pack for Windows Mobile 5 which provides the 'Direct Push' email capability. The other piece you need is Exchange SP2 which has been released. So this phone will be capable of "Push Email".
To see why I put "Push Email" in brackets read here: http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/archive/2005/06/07/406035.aspx
(it's not really push). |
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