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For Developers: Application Verifier for Windows Mobile 5.0 released

 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: For Developers: Application Verifier for Windows Mobile 5.0 released Reply with quote

Previously available for Windows Mobile 2003, now a version especially for Windows Mobile 5.0 has been released:



With this tool, that has also a desktop part, developers can find problems in their application...

Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/4877.html
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a bit surprised Microsoft have put effort into this. After all aren't most WM5 developers supposed to be using .net cf which uses managed memory and a garbage collector therefore renderering this obsolete. Or is this Microsoft accepting that the cf is just too limited and accepting that developers a lot of the time will find themselves resorting to using c++.

Being one of these mobile developers however I will find this tool extremely helpfull.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kieranEire wrote:
I am a bit surprised Microsoft have put effort into this. After all aren't most WM5 developers supposed to be using .net cf which uses managed memory and a garbage collector therefore renderering this obsolete. Or is this Microsoft accepting that the cf is just too limited and accepting that developers a lot of the time will find themselves resorting to using c++.

Being one of these mobile developers however I will find this tool extremely helpfull.


all commercial games are made by C++ in native code
and many best other apps are made with native code too

most enterprise apps are made with .net though

the same is with desktop Windows
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides: .net code can be easily decompiled and there is no good obfuscator for .net ... so people prefer writing in native code (c++/c).
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't find it "strange" or "suspicious" that we have this tool. .NET does not need this, C++ needs it, so here it is, Microsoft delivered, be happy.
I wouldn't look for secret message from microsoft, like "here is the tool, now stop using .NET, use C++ instead" Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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all commercial games are made by C++ in native code
and many best other apps are made with native code too

most enterprise apps are made with .net though


I have been a windows mobile developer now for several years mainly enterprise apps and as of yet I have not developed on .net cf enterprise application. No remoting, no bluetooth support, no COM support, no xpath, no XSLT, no remoting and the list goes on and on. It is due to a lot of key omissions from .net cf that make rule it out of a lot of enterprise solutions. Outside webservices, light weight databases or ui designing .net cf is extremely weak. This why Microsoft are pushing .net much stronger on the destops and the cf much less.
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