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WARNING: operators and distributors and manufacturers want to CHEAT YOU OUT OF A2DP (stereo audio over Bluetooh) !
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:13 am    Post subject: WARNING: operators and distributors and manufacturers want to CHEAT YOU OUT OF A2DP (stereo audio over Bluetooh) ! Reply with quote

The worst is happening: ROM upgrades with Push Email are rolling out (not all public yet, but our sources already have them) and some of operators and distributors are not placing the A2DP (support for stereo audio ...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of interest, where has it been stated that Orange UK won't include A2DP support in their ROM upgrades? I've not been able to find information on this anywhere. What is your source?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thelondonthing wrote:
Just out of interest, where has it been stated that Orange UK won't include A2DP support in their ROM upgrades? I've not been able to find information on this anywhere. What is your source?


I can't reveal. Wait and see!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope I-Mate will release their SP5 Update with A2DP PLUS I hope they will release it TODAY!

The longer I wait, the more I get angry. Why have I bought an dearer i-Mate phone, when their support is not better than that of any other manufacturer.

Btw: Leaked SP5 und Universal ROM is out now. Wink -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=239039
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would HTC or any other OEMs not include A2DP if it is ready and available from Microsoft? OEMs don't need to pay extra to Microsoft to include A2DP in their devices. And every OEM would love to have one more thing listed on their feature list. So why would HTC and others want to put in extra efforts to remove it? Do you really think it is because these guys hate their customers and want to cheat for nothing? Maybe you should not jump to your conclusion so fast...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thelondonthing wrote:
Just out of interest, where has it been stated that Orange UK won't include A2DP support in their ROM upgrades? I've not been able to find information on this anywhere. What is your source?


Unfortunately he's telling the truth. Neither the M5000 or C600 AKU2 ROMs have A2DP. HTC are pulling it out of the ROMs, not the carriers.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wat is the reason behind tat they do not include A2DP in the ROM update? I can't think of any advantages tat benefit the telcos or HTC.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ykj wrote:
Wat is the reason behind tat they do not include A2DP in the ROM update? I can't think of any advantages tat benefit the telcos or HTC.


Maybe they are having trouble getting it working on there devices and are takeing the easy way out.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skjelnes wrote:

Maybe they are having trouble getting it working on there devices and are takeing the easy way out.


yes, that MUST be it. I remember once I was playing with 3rd party Bluetooth stacks for MDA Compact and at the end I had to give up on them, because stability of the OS was gone...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's because stereo Bluetooth works on same bandwidth that mono does and it requires device to recompress audio on the fly to lower bitrate.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schriss wrote:
It's because stereo Bluetooth works on same bandwidth that mono does and it requires device to recompress audio on the fly to lower bitrate.


are you saying that HTC Wizard (K-JAM) has not enough processing power to handle stereo Bluetooth?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea, I just wanted to extend the post "Maybe they are having trouble getting it working on there devices" statement, to put some light on how does it really work in background and that it's not that easy as some may think.
Maybe they are too lazy to implement this for all devices...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
schriss wrote:
It's because stereo Bluetooth works on same bandwidth that mono does and it requires device to recompress audio on the fly to lower bitrate.


are you saying that HTC Wizard (K-JAM) has not enough processing power to handle stereo Bluetooth?


schriss wrote:
I have no idea, I just wanted to extend the post "Maybe they are having trouble getting it working on there devices" statement, to put some light on how does it really work in background and that it's not that easy as some may think.
Maybe they are too lazy to implement this for all devices...


Then why is it working perfectly on the Qtek ROM that has been floating around!?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then why is it working perfectly on the Qtek ROM that has been floating around!?


good point! so it must be not processor speed but some interoperability issues - that some other things stop to work when A2DP is used...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
skjelnes wrote:

Maybe they are having trouble getting it working on there devices and are takeing the easy way out.


yes, that MUST be it. I remember once I was playing with 3rd party Bluetooth stacks for MDA Compact and at the end I had to give up on them, because stability of the OS was gone...



er..no, thats not it. There's nothing wrong with A2DP, it works fine. They're just holding off until AKU2.2
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