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Preview of HTC Hermes published - getting ready for the first affordable UMTS Pocket PC phone
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Preview of HTC Hermes published - getting ready for the first affordable UMTS Pocket PC phone Reply with quote

Since Motorola once again fails Windows Mobile community and postpones release of Motorola Q indefinitely (in USA: probably to May 2006, in Europe: probably to February 2007), it looks like HTC has no such problems ...

Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5037.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like it's got a proprietary mini usb connector.

also, why not vga?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, since I have measured the Hermes prototype at CeBIT myself I can say that it is NOT bigger than the Wizard which is 109x58x24mm (=1517mm³). The Hermes is 111x57x22mm (=1392mm³). Thats 8-9% less volume!!!

And it even feels thinner, the 22mm thickness are due only to protrusions at the top and bottom of the device. Where you hold the device (in the broad middle part) its only 21mm thick! Look what other observations I made about this device here: http://pdanews-de.blogspot.com/2006/03/cebit-2006-measuring-up-prototype.html

I also got news that Vodafone Germany will carry the Hermes as the VPA Compact III, with availability expected in June or July.

They also told me, that the HERMES will initially not be capable of using HSDPA, only through a later software update. Also look here: http://pdanews-de.blogspot.com/2006/03/cebit-2006-hermes-castrated-vodafone.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brianz wrote:
looks like it's got a proprietary mini usb connector.

also, why not vga?


VGA displays are too expensive and too power-hungry.

Regarding USB connector: I don't think that it is very important. I think that the wheel in this device is the most important. I was playing with this wheel and it seemed to look very well - like in BlackBerry...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the wheel didnt have a scrolling functionality in the built in applications like contacts. It just regulated the volume, pushing it in, didnt do anything, not eben close the volume bubble.

It did have a nice "feel" thats right. But if it only works the volume.... then who really cares?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarcTGFG wrote:
But the wheel didnt have a scrolling functionality in the built in applications like contacts. It just regulated the volume, pushing it in, didnt do anything, not eben close the volume bubble.

It did have a nice "feel" thats right. But if it only works the volume.... then who really cares?


I think that it is a matter of software - to convince the wheel to work fine in all applications - no big deal.

I really doubt that this wheel would have been there only for volume control...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm waiting this device with great interest.
I hope that this device will be EDGE becase edge is a very important intermediate trasfer protocol between gprs and UMTS...
Very important feature on my opinion.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
MarcTGFG wrote:
But the wheel didnt have a scrolling functionality in the built in applications like contacts. It just regulated the volume, pushing it in, didnt do anything, not eben close the volume bubble.

It did have a nice "feel" thats right. But if it only works the volume.... then who really cares?


I think that it is a matter of software - to convince the wheel to work fine in all applications - no big deal.

I really doubt that this wheel would have been there only for volume control...


I certainly hop you are right Smile

And yes, it does have EDGE.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarcTGFG wrote:

It did have a nice "feel" thats right. But if it only works the volume.... then who really cares?


Ever heard of a nifty little app called SmartSKeys?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An so is it sure that this device will be EDGE?

Shocked

Please, someone reply to my answer!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: The T-Mobile box says "EDG Reply with quote

In the French pics, it says "EDGE" on the T-Mobile picture of box
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A T-Mobile representative at CeBIT said it will, when asked about EDGE capable devices.

Curiously enough, he also claimed Vario (Wizard) DOESN'T support EDGE, which is a tad strange Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarcTGFG wrote:
Well, since I have measured the Hermes prototype at CeBIT myself I can say that it is NOT bigger than the Wizard which is 109x58x24mm (=1517mm³). The Hermes is 111x57x22mm (=1392mm³). Thats 8-9% less volume!!!

And it even feels thinner, the 22mm thickness are due only to protrusions at the top and bottom of the device. Where you hold the device (in the broad middle part) its only 21mm thick! Look what other observations I made about this device here: http://pdanews-de.blogspot.com/2006/03/cebit-2006-measuring-up-prototype.html



It certainly looks bigger than a Wizard to me.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/11/live-from-cebit-htc-wizard-vs-htc-prophet/
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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VGA displays are too expensive and too power-hungry.




what is this crap about VGA is too expensive and too power hungry? this is just bull! y cant any1 honor my dream and make a pocketpcPhone with VGA with EVDO or UMTS/HSDPA!
Dell is selling VGA pda and QVGA pda model with only 200$ difference!
and right now dell is having a sale, it' only 100buk more for a VGA pda compare to a QVGA pda!
average price for a QVGA pocketpcPHONE is around 499$. PEOPLE WILL PAY 200BUK MORE FOR A VGA POCKETPC-PHONE at 699$! and most people wanted a pocketpcPHONE *ALREADY* have one! and they will not upgrade to another QVGA pocketpcPHONE! but they WILL upgrade to a VGA pocketpcPHONE!, that including me!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks like a all round great Mobile phonme. Cannot wait to see it in the stores.

Lets hope it is around the €500.00 mark as more people will be able to afford it. also Can this phone take GSM sim cards just wondering

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