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msmobiles.com_robot
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 Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: Windows Mobile wins marketing war with Symbian |
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Nokia E61 (flat smartphone with QWERTY keyboard and powered by Symbian OS) and Nokia N91 (smartphone with hard disk and powered by Symbian OS) are afforable, very good when it comes to connectivity (both UMTS and Wi...
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Stinger
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | but Symbian is very fragmented (several UIQ platforms, several Series 60, Series 90, etc platforms) |
Several UIQ platforms? Several Series 60 platforms? What are you talking about? What are these different platforms?
Symbian has two main platforms that make up 95% of sales - UIQ and Series 60. The same way that Windows Mobile has two main platforms - Pocket PC and Smartphone.
You mention Series 90. Series 90 had one phone released off of it - the same as the Windows CE platform that the Neonode N1 was based on and the same as the platform that the Gizmondo was based on. There is no difference in fragmentation between Symbian and Windows Mobile!
By ranting on about Symbian, you make yourself look like a fool. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about and should stick to reporting about Microsoft products.
Symbian is equivelent to an OEM like HTC. They make a product that isn't meant to be advertised. They purposefully stay out of the lime-light in order to generate sales. Why can't you see that? |
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EJR
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| dear Stinger: I beg to differ that Windows Mobile is equally fragmented as Symbian: Symbian is much much more fragmented. Example: UIQ applications don't run in Series 60 but Windows Mobile 5 smartphone applications run inside of Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC. |
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aquila2
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| Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | dear Stinger: I beg to differ that Windows Mobile is equally fragmented as Symbian: Symbian is much much more fragmented. Example: UIQ applications don't run in Series 60 but Windows Mobile 5 smartphone applications run inside of Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC. |
heh, yet another wrong info from this MS lunatic 
in europe, where even nokia 9x00 i.e. nokia Series 80 outsold WM devices combined 
where in europe alone nokia sold 4m devices i.e. 10 times more then WM devices combined
you probably never ever went to europe, you could see nokia ad everywhere and even on those airports there are only a few MS ads here |
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dcarn75
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| Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: Oh no not another Microsoft freak |
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I am amazed that someone can say Microsoft's OS is technically superior to Symbian - YOU WHAT!
Man you could not be further from the truth the Microsoft OS is a shrunk wrap version of the rubbish that crashes everyday on my laptop. They can't even get right in their "main market"
Technically superior - I think you need to look under the bonnet of your phone and smell the roses... |
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AlanJC
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: |
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He just doesn't understand the concept that the SymbianOS phones are aimed at a different market sector, and type of user than a WM device.
Symbian users basically want phones with some added functionality, WM users want PDA's with phone functionality.
I don't see why he feels the need to make such a non-existant issue into such a big deal, but hey, he seems to enjoy it. |
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tapani
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | dear Stinger: I beg to differ that Windows Mobile is equally fragmented as Symbian: Symbian is much much more fragmented. Example: UIQ applications don't run in Series 60 but Windows Mobile 5 smartphone applications run inside of Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC. |
Have you ever tried running a Smartphone application inside PocketPC? It does not look the same as in Smartphone, usually it looks really ugly. And because there is no back button in PPC it's usually impossible to use the application. I really have no idea how the next WM could combine the two platforms so that existing applications for both platforms would run normally in one single platform.
Comparing Ericsson's UIQ with Nokia's S60 is same as comparing Pocket PC with some non-standard Window CE OS like Neonode. And S80 and S90 are like Handheld PC, they are not going to exist very long time anymore. |
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jah
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Here in the UK there have been many adverts in train stations etc for WM5 devices - the key sellnig point is MS OS + Outlook (email mainly). While Nokia's adverts talk about camera features, MP3 playback and video watching etc as well as email. Now I think most average phone users probably are not that interested in having Outlook and Office on a phone (actually its not really outlook and its not really Office as we all know). I think we will know from sales volumes which company has the better approach and product.
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Kumala
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: Symbian Rock! |
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I am actually sad that Symbian are not advertised along with their phones a bit more. Their OS is far and away the best embedded OS for mobiles. Nokia are now starting to fully demonstrate the full potential of this with their S60 3rd edition using Symbian OS v9.1. No one can argue with what they have released over the past month or so, incredible! SonyEricsson have their new UIQ v3.0 Symbian OS v9.1 phones coming out very soon as well and they look fantastic!
Which big mobile manufacturers have M$ broken into so far in a BIG way? No one really! HTC make pretty much all of their phones. M$ are a single manufacturer company! No one wants to become a commodity so everyone is wary of them!
The key point is that Symbian provides a *very* stable platform to build a phone on top of! Fair enough that the big name mobile manufacturers want it to look like it is all theirs but I am sure Symbian are not too worried about that. All I know is that my Nokia 9300 hasn't been turned off for ~3 months now and has run perfectly day in day out ... show me an M$ phone that can do that?!?
As for adverts, fair enough Symbian is not mentioned but their phones are advertised everywhere in the UK! The X Factor for example is a pretty big TV show here and Nokia have been plugging the 3250 constantly throughout. I dread to think how many they will sell through that! My guess is that model alone will sell more than all of the M$ phones combined!  If you walk through any tube station in London you will most likely see a load of Vodafone adverts for the E61 and N70 splashed all over the place. I have to say the price point of the E61 is very impressive and with the full push email support Nokia can't really fail!
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