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Samsung is OFFICIALLY launching Samsung SGH-i320 MS Smartphone in Europe !
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:06 am    Post subject: Samsung is OFFICIALLY launching Samsung SGH-i320 MS Smartphone in Europe ! Reply with quote

Unfortuantely HTC - the manufacturer of majority of Windows Mobile phoens sold nowadays - is too complacent to understand that users need mobile phones with QWERTY keyboard for single handed usage, therefore it is g...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: qwerty keyboard Reply with quote

I don't agree with you that users need mobile phones with QWERTY keyboard for single handed usage. I and many others like what HTC is doing.

If you need to enter a lot of information or work with word or excel it's not convinient to do it with one hand and it's too slow.

And the devices like HTC's also compine a large screen (2.8") and a keyboard I can work on while in the others I get a small screen and a small keyboard. If not then the device gets too big.

So I go with HTC!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HTC should be on the way with a phone with single-handed qwerty keyboard if the rumors are correct. Can't remember the codename though - I can probably find it if you need it :p
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anybody know where i can buy one of these?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except for the lack of a 3G capability, that's a nice looking phone.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You talk about the HTC Excalibur. No one knows when or what, but it exists.

Cheers, Lutz
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigneeker wrote:
does anybody know where i can buy one of these?


the same where Samsung i300 can be purchased - at retailers all over Europe.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HTC should not introduce anything unless Excalibur is not slim, light-weight, fast and does not have both HSDPA and WiFi. We already have two non-3G, non-WiFi QWERTY smartphones so there is no need for a third device.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
bigneeker wrote:
does anybody know where i can buy one of these?


the same where Samsung i300 can be purchased - at retailers all over Europe.



i have barely seen the i300 for sale.
if anyone finds out where they are selling these, please let me know. i will be in europe (belgium) till the end of july before i go back to the US.
thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:58 am    Post subject: Launch of the SGH-i320 Reply with quote

I've been looking forward to this phone, but I'm now disappointed. I don't want to be negative, but there are three things I just fail to understand:

1. Why would any manufacturer use WM Smartphone instead of WM Pocket PC Phone version in any phone with this form factor (with full keyboard)? It just seems so silly. With this form factor, I expect the additional mobile office benefits of Pocket PC Phone version and the additional ergonomic benefits of a stylus!

2. How come no one ever launches an AZERTY version of their QWERTY products? France was going to be the first country that Samsung launched the SGH-i320. But in France (and in Belgium, where I live) the AZERTY keyboard is used. Can it really be so much trouble and expense for a manufacturer to create an AZERTY version of their product?

3. Where's the wheel? My thumb wants a nice little wheel, not a rocker. Will the Samsungs, HPs, Motorolas, and HTCs of this world please take note!

Still waiting for the ideal device...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the phone is pretty much spot on for me. The Q in a GSM format would have been good with MSFP but the key features of the i320 are aimed at business users. I support 300+ blackberry users and I have been waiting for a qwerty format smartphone for ages.

I suspect it will sell well because of the following:

1. Qwerty keybaord actually lets you type a reply and is the same form factor as a BB
2. It is small enough to use as a phone without looking like a nerd
3. It can be used one handed which is critical when carrying a briefcase of papers.
4. It has a camera which makes it feel more phone like to existing users
5. The Active sync push technology works well and is a lot less difficult to maintain than a BES server - Trust me!
6. It is made by a reputable main stream manufacturer which will mean something to corporates

The only cons I can spot are the lack of Quad band for use in the States and the memory card format, however this is rarely used be corporate staff. I am currently using a combination of a Nokia E61 with Active sync and a Qtek 8500. Both are excellent but I would rather go back to one phone. The key factor for me personally is whether I mind carrying it around at the weekend....What I call the jeans pocket test.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AirWar wrote:
the key features of the i320 are aimed at business users.


Which is what I am, which is why the Pocket PC Phone version (with MS Office built in) would be better than the Smartphone version.

AirWar wrote:
I suspect it will sell well because of the following:
...


All of those things could still be had using the Pocket PC version with a Stylus instead of the Smartphone version.

AirWar wrote:
Qwerty keybaord actually lets you type a reply and is the same form factor as a BB.


So would AZERTY, which would be nice for those of us who have AZERTY on our laptops (i.e., French and Southern Europeans).

AirWar wrote:
The Active sync push technology works well and is a lot less difficult to maintain than a BES server - Trust me!


Hey, I have no problem with Active Sync -- I love it and am using direct push with my i-mate SP5. No complaints there whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with having office on a phone but it is hard work editing documents on small screens and the Pocket PC version is clumsier to use. For example unlocking the screen requires a screen tap.

Whenever I have tried users with Pocket PC they find it hard work and not as quick as using a BB with the thumbwheel. Essentially they need email on the move and the opportunity to review an attachment.

I do disagree with having an azerty keyboard. I have to support PC users in France and Belgium and it should be a simple option is it is on PCs.

Another thing I could have said is that Blackberries cost a fortune every month and with Active sync I only have GPRS usage to worry about. On corporate rates it is peanuts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AirWar wrote:
I agree with having office on a phone but it is hard work editing documents on small screens and the Pocket PC version is clumsier to use. For example unlocking the screen requires a screen tap..


Ah, good to know. I must admit I have never actually used Pocket PC; I just know what it's theoretical capabilities are.

AirWar wrote:
Whenever I have tried users with Pocket PC they find it hard work and not as quick as using a BB with the thumbwheel.


Hence my remark about the thumbwheel -- it's one of the most ergonomic mobile-device hardware aspects ever created. I wonder why more mobile devices aren't built with one. If WM Pocket PC Phone version doesn't support thumbwheel hardware, then Microsoft has to work on that.

AirWar wrote:
Essentially they need email on the move and the opportunity to review an attachment.


That's about right -- for my people it's Calendar, Contacts, and of course e-mail with attachments -- and of course phone. Yup, that's what's needed.

AirWar wrote:
Another thing I could have said is that Blackberries cost a fortune every month and with Active sync I only have GPRS usage to worry about. On corporate rates it is peanuts.


Very good point. WM 5.0 with MSFP has allowed me to give my small company (thirteen people in all) better-than-Blackberry mobility at almost no additional cost -- just the devices, which are not very expensive. There's just nothing like having your Outlook in your pocket, up-to-date at every instant!

As for GPRS costs, the package we have from our provider (Proximus in Belgium) doesn't charge for connection time, only for throughput volume over the initial free amount per user (don't remember what that is, it's either 10 or 20 mb which isn't much so some additional billing usually happens). A package like that is necessary because always-connected GPRS is necessary for Direct Push to really work like it should.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: WHERE DO I GET THIS AWESOME PHONE! Reply with quote

Thats the way to go Samsung, release a single handed qwerty phone in advance in europe and you catch the whole market.... Those guys at palm are far to slow and motorola to... come one its nearly a year the americans have the Treo 700w and p and Motorola Q.... Its time to give the big companies a wake up call...!!!!
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