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Audio interview with Cyril Houri - CEO and founder of Mexens Technology - makers of Navizon solution

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: Audio interview with Cyril Houri - CEO and founder of Mexens Technology - makers of Navizon solution Reply with quote

Navizon solution consists of software for Windows Mobile and a service with location data. With Navizon it is possible to find your location even if your Windows Mobile phone has no built-in GPS - just on the basis ...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish Cyril and company the best. After 3 weeks tuning/calibrating Navizon with my GPS in the DC area, covering and recovering the same areas, the best the Navizon software could do without GPS (i.e. cell-phone tower only) was place my location within an approximately 1/2 mile area. That was the best it could do - it was often much worse than that. This kind of performance is pretty much useless for any form of GPS application, so Navizon no longer resides on my phone.

Perhaps someday it will rival Verizon's VZ Navigator in performance, but for now it just doesn't do much useful.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In order to be fair, you need to compare apples with apples. VZ Navigator works with a GPS chip when you're outdoors and with cell positioning when you're indoors.
In an indoors situation it will give you the same accuracy: cell towers cover several miles (especially the CDMA ones) so it can never be a surgical precision. Only that with VZ navigator you won't know how precise it is as it will display stuff around you and not where you are (when using cell positioning indoors).
You didn't like it, that's your absolut right. But I would simply say:
1) No one said you could get super-accurate when using cell positioning on Navizon: it's good enough however to find stuff around you when you are lost in a new city. And Verizon won't disagree here.
2) You could have gotten a 20 meters accuracy just by turning on wifi (Verizon doesn't offer wifi positioning)
3) As far as I know, VZ Navigator is not available on Windows Mobile phones. Only on Razrs.
4) You need to be a Verizon customer. Lucky for you to be one of them, but Navizon works with all carriers, worldwide.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kupe wrote:

Perhaps someday it will rival Verizon's VZ Navigator in performance, but for now it just doesn't do much useful.


thank you very much for feedback, kupe!

I just wanted to add that in 3G based on UMTS/HSDPA the location services are available through operators' mobile portals meaning that for small money one can call up application (server based, through WAP) that shows your location on the map and you can find nearby points of interest. SEE here (at the bottom of the page) if you are interested...

in other words: truly Navizon has big competition so both more input data with more cell IDs is needed and maybe better triangulation techniques - yes it is harsh but I appreciate very much that Navizon is trying at least!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyril wrote:
In order to be fair, you need to compare apples with apples. VZ Navigator works with a GPS chip when you're outdoors and with cell positioning when you're indoors.

It makes sense that you now require (user controllable) internal GPS with Navizon - makes the system more useful overall. At least you got several hundred towers in the northern Virginia region uploaded while I had the program. Wink
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