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msmobiles.com_robot
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 Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:29 am Post subject: Review of HTC Universal (aka Qtek 9000 , T-Mobile MDA Pro , Orange SPV M5000 , O2 Xda Exec , i-mate JASJAR , etc) |
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HTC Universal is the first Windows Mobile 5.0 powered mobile phone and it is also the first 3G/UMTS phone powered by Windows Mobile. While it was released commercially last year several things have changed since the...
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Surur_
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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The rumors dont say soon. The rumors say mid 2007, which is nearly a year away. They universal will be top dog for a long time still.
BTW, for VGA phones, what about the w-zero and w-zero"s", the two VGA phones in Japan. The w-zero "s" especially has a very innovative form factor and very high density screen (VGA in 2.8 inches)
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EJR
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Surur_ wrote: |
BTW, for VGA phones, what about the w-zero and w-zero"s", the two VGA phones in Japan. The w-zero "s" especially has a very innovative form factor and very high density screen (VGA in 2.8 inches)
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w-zero uses Japan-only cellular standard so even if somebody would import it to USA or Europe it would be totally unusable as mobile phone... so HTC Universal stays still the top class... |
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kupe
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | w-zero uses Japan-only cellular standard so even if somebody would import it to USA or Europe it would be totally unusable as mobile phone... so HTC Universal stays still the top class... |
What a silly conclusion. The HTC does nothing for me as a Verizon customer - based on your own "scale of utility" the HTC Universal is therefore useless. |
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brianworkman
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| What are the chances of a CDMA version (Verizon Wireless) of this phone ever coming out? |
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bearxor
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with above. You seem to have forgotten that Sharp makes VGA phones in Japan, and then when someone brings it up, you say that sin'ce it's Japan only, it doesn't matter. Well, under the same logic, the Universal is GSM only, and so it doesn't matter to me.
There are more CDMA users in America than GSM. We feel left out ALOT. |
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EJR
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| bearxor wrote: | I agree with above. You seem to have forgotten that Sharp makes VGA phones in Japan, and then when someone brings it up, you say that sin'ce it's Japan only, it doesn't matter. Well, under the same logic, the Universal is GSM only, and so it doesn't matter to me.
There are more CDMA users in America than GSM. We feel left out ALOT. |
in USA you have T-Mobile and Cingular wireless carriers with which you can use HTC Universal as some of my friends do anyway. |
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brianworkman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: |
in USA you have T-Mobile and Cingular wireless carriers with which you can use HTC Universal as some of my friends do anyway. |
True. However, both physical and customer service suck for both carriers, at least that has always been my experience. Verizon's customer service sucks too, but the physical service of the EVDO is first class. |
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maxnix
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: Not the only phone to run at 520MHz! |
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| Quote: | | ...still HTC Universal has the fastest processor among all Windows Mobile phones - Intel Xscale 520 MHz |
The Samsung SCH-i730 can also run at 520 MHz under WM5.
The VGA screen is the big difference, but at that size, and as muddy as it looks in the photos, I am not sure how much of an advantage that is in reality. |
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EJR
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Not the only phone to run at 520MHz! |
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| maxnix wrote: |
The VGA screen is the big difference, but at that size, and as muddy as it looks in the photos, I am not sure how much of an advantage that is in reality. |
no, it's not muddy - the VGA display in HTC Universal is perfect. |
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cmonex
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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well, the first vga phone was the cyberbank PC ephone I, in 2001. 
then ephone II and III.. i have a II. and i have the first vga phone that wasn't ephone: bsquare powerhandheld, released in late 2003.
of course i have qtek 9000 too 
edit: just a note, i think the display of the bsquare powerhandheld is the best. then qtek 9000, then ephone I-II (i left out III, as i never saw one) |
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veletron
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Universal is a top piece of kit. Mine goes everywhere with me, apart from the pub (too big for the pub!).
Many manufacturers just develop for the worlds main standards. On planet earth thats GSM/GPRS/UMTS. However you look at it, in terms of numbers CDMA and EVDO are niche standards.
If the networks all pulled in the same direction then we would have a single 3G standard worldwide. Its not the fault of the phone manufacturers - although perhaps they should all just refuse to develop future phones for those niche standards!
As consumers its us thats left with the sour taste of the industries endless wranglings.
I have no idea which is the 'best' 3G standard, but I suspect that UMTS+HSDPA is not far off.
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bearxor
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | bearxor wrote: | I agree with above. You seem to have forgotten that Sharp makes VGA phones in Japan, and then when someone brings it up, you say that sin'ce it's Japan only, it doesn't matter. Well, under the same logic, the Universal is GSM only, and so it doesn't matter to me.
There are more CDMA users in America than GSM. We feel left out ALOT. |
in USA you have T-Mobile and Cingular wireless carriers with which you can use HTC Universal as some of my friends do anyway. |
You must have missed the part where I said 'There are more CDMA users in America than GSM'. I've been tempted to switch to Cingular so I can import some nicer phones, but Cingulars data pricing and high-speed network suck. The fact that I only pay ten bucks a month for data and unlimited text messaging with Sprint is the only reason I stay.
Hopefully, with everyone looking like they're moving towards WCDMA, that won't be a problem in a couple of years. |
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krulwich
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: QTEK9000 and HTC TyTN |
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The QTEK 9000 (aka HTC Universal) and HTC TyTN seem to have the same feature sets, namely quad-GSM, 3G, Wi-Fi, and full keyboard.
Does anyone know how the two compare? I need to buy a new smartphone, and they seem like the ones to choose between. |
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EJR
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: Re: QTEK9000 and HTC TyTN |
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| krulwich wrote: | The QTEK 9000 (aka HTC Universal) and HTC TyTN seem to have the same feature sets, namely quad-GSM, 3G, Wi-Fi, and full keyboard.
Does anyone know how the two compare? I need to buy a new smartphone, and they seem like the ones to choose between. |
TyTN is better in all respects apart from one: HTC Universal has VGA display. If you need to read PDF documentation that has no reflow and you would like to read it without continous horizontal scrolling, then HTC Universal is better due to VGA display. Apart from display TyTN (HTC Hermes) is better in all respects and it also has EDGE and HSDPA... that are not present in HTC Universal. |
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