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msmobiles.com_robot · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215

msmobiles.com is glad to show you it's own photos and comparsion shots of the upcoming HTC Excalibur, aka T-Mobile Dash. See it side by side to the Nokia E61, a phone that has pretty much the same features.

Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5653.html

austinguy23 · Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 72

The screen is too small, the keyboard is too cramped, and it doesn't support 3G.

I'll stick to Hermes.

iantaylor27 · Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 79

Hello
its about time you actknowledge the power of the nokia e61 and that no windows mobile pocket pc phone can't touch its web browser.

I WIN Laughing

indiekiduk · Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 198 Location: Glasgow, Scotland

Whats so good about the Nokia browser? Does WiFi work on this one? I tried an N91 and it wouldnt connect to any APs I tried, sometimes it couldnt even see them.
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lutzh · Joined: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 114

@iantaylor27

as you can read i have already set up my mind if it comes to the comparsion of excalibur & e61. but that's just one phone. the e61 can't beat treo 750v or asus p525 in terms of features and usability.

also it is not about winning or about you know better than i/anyone else. it is no war of the worlds, no showdown or anything bloody - it is about mobile phones. i don't mind what you prefer as well as you surely don't care what i use. or?

anyway, i hope you have a nice day!

cheers, lutz

panaros · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1

i am a windows mobile maniac, but for the last month i am using the e61 and all i have to say is that is the BEST nokia device ever!!! all other nokias suck.
It supports all forms of push emauil (blackberry, visto, intellisync, microsoft exchange) , it has the best stand by times, and it is the first device that has VOIP included in the rom!!
And the best VOIP ever in a mobile device with the truphone settings. CHECK it and see the big difference : www.truphone.com Very Happy

lutzh · Joined: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 114

well surprisingly msmobiles becomes a friend of the nokia e61...

i've started my mobile career with nokias (1011, 2110,7110, 8110, 6210, 6230, ...) as most other people too. but growing up in terms of age and professional career brought me to the point that nokia couldn't deliver anything for someone in the mid 30's. so i ended up with windows mobile technology with the first spv classic. and from that moment on nokia was dead for me. even if the early windows mobile devices were nearly unusable and had tons of bugs i was in love with the platform.

with the e61 and licensing of MS Push they've made their come back for me and i simply had to check it. i can easily recommend the nokia e61 to anyone who had a nokia phone before, and this is something i still can't do with most of the windows mobiel devices. you still have to be geeky to love windows mobile - but it's getting better and with the palm treo 750v windows mobile starts to climb the latest walls of the olymp. let's wait for the first nokia hardware with windows mobile os. i am sure it will come. sooner or later...

cheers, lutz

gilesjuk · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 312

I think what many people are thinking is that many Windows OEMs just dont care enough about the product.

HTC will start to care a bit more now that they're putting their own name on the product, when you use your brand you have to ensure it has a good image.

Nokia has a lot more experience in terms of mobile communication devices, not all of them have been a joy to use (9210 was too limited in terms of RAM and speed to be useable as a browsing device).

It's about time Microsoft started caring about the defects in their OS, the notification bug which has been there for ages and results in many people not realising they have voicemail.

It takes a lot more than shoving an OS in some nice hardware to make a device people want to use. You have to ensure the performance of the device is good. Battery life, usability, durability. I do wonder if some of the Windows Mobile manufacturers even test these outside of the workplace.

victorqtek · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16

Sorry Bill,
but I've switched from TyTn to Nokia E71 which is the best Communicator on the market IMHO. More then that in our country street price for TyTn is almost 2 times higher then for E70, 950 USD and 550 USD (cheaper then any HTC device) respectivelly. Who can tell me why? Also one small test for all of you: try to open 3-5 Mb Word File on TyTn or any other Windows Mobile device and on Nokia E series device.

raulr · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 26

I'm surprised msmobiles didn't add comments saying "Excalibur is smaller and has a camera thus once again proving WM5 is much better than Symbian." Laughing

gilesjuk · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 312

raulr · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 26

[quote="gilesjuk"][quote="raulr"]I'm surprised msmobiles didn't add comments saying "Excalibur is smaller and has a camera thus once again proving WM5 is much better than Symbian." Laughing

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Well it's variable on here, sometimes praise for Windows Mobile, sometimes criticism.

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I was referring to the site operator msmobiles_wiseacre, or whatever that id is. He's never variable on his opinion of WM vs. Symbian. His opinion is usually something ridiculous like WM5 has can do "X" so that proves symbian and any other mobile OS sucks.

I know the posters can be objective.

lutzh · Joined: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 114

hi there

if you watch the review carefuly you'll see that i wrote it. i am - lets say - a guest autor here. i never take part in flaming, hate, discrimination or anything else. because i talk of mobile phones here and not about religion, sexuality, races and so on. so if you check the other reviews i've made here, you'll see that i - at least try - to be objective. thats one reason why i've bought the e61 - to really know if it is any good or not. if you've read the excalibur vs. e61 carefuly, you've seen my conclusion (even if i said i will give non).

so - maybe - you can make a difference between a site and an autor. as well as between a county and some idiots that also live there... i have my own view on things and the site owner eats that and i would never tolerate anything that would force me to say symbian/nokia or person xy is dumb/xxx/sucks. i hope you understand, what i am trying to say.

cheers, lutz

kieranEire · Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 282

I have been purchasing windows smartphones since the first SPV and I would like to have a windows device. However in my opinion and in the company I work Windows smartphones are not of a practical business use. Not because of the more popular features such as wifi etc but due to the real lack of basic features such as a decent battery life, decent reliablity, the removal of bugs that have been there since the dawn of time such as the voice mail issues. I could go on, so I think Microsoft have to really seriously see what makes a good phone and a good PDA. With my Jasjar on the road for two days and I am running around looking for sockets and adapters because the battery dies after a day.

Most in the company have converted to blackberry's but I choose an e61 as my company phone, due to the availbilty of good GPS software, I travel a lot, wide array of push email support and voip support built into the rom. All this and I get 4 days battery life with bluetooth left on.

Come on Mucrosoft and HTC etc get the basics right.