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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject: Symbian boasts about its market share and laughs out Windows Mobile and Microsoft Reply with quote

One image tells more than thousand words, so Symbian has painted an image on the basis of market data from Canalys:



Lies, damned lies and Symbian market share charts? Yes, market share numbers look good for S...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symbian sucks, but is great for average teenager who has not yet grown up enough to buy and use business devices like HP ipaq hw6915
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="schriss"]Symbian sucks, but is great for average teenager who has not yet grown up enough to buy and use business devices like HP ipaq hw6915[/quote]

Does your mum know you're not in school? I'll tell her if you don't start behaving like a half civilised good-boy.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schriss wrote:
Symbian sucks, but is great for average teenager who has not yet grown up enough to buy and use business devices like HP ipaq hw6915


That's not a wise move.

I personally prefer WM5, but I did spend the last 6 weeks with a Sony Ericsson M600i , and there is no equivalent WM5 device. Also, I have used the not yet released Nokia N95. Again for its size its unbeatable.

I am sure WM5 will catch up, and I hope its soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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greedy incompetent cruel evil managers of Nokia


somebody has a bee in their bonnet ! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good one msmobiles. I haven't chuckled out loud that much about your petty whining for a while (probably since your last Mobius rant - or was it the mvp RANT?). Poor Symbian must be so depressed to be DOMINATING the world's mobile OS marketplace. Where will they be able to store their mountains of money? Wink

Seriously - the Symbian/Nokia juggernaut is a real thing. They have clearly figured out what the vast majority of wireless users want...across cultures...across the face of the planet. Wannabes like Microsoft and Palm should take note if they really want to appeal to a broader user base. For now, they both (along with Symbian) appear to be satisfied with fighting over a small portion of the high-end marketplace.

Is it true the reason you refused to attend Mobius this year is because you refused to accept a Microsoft bribe? ROFL! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i never tried symbian, and i dont want to! isnt Symbian just a smartphone OS? once i tried Windows Mobile with "TOUCH SCREEN", i can never go back to smartphone craps!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey there MSMobiles! What do you mean by Windows Mobile being compatible with Windows on the desktop?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Well at some point people do grow up Reply with quote

Well this is a site which does not really listen and people here are very " biased" - and it feels like the linux/windows fighting.

Well - as a user i dont really care if it runs on or the other OS. The phone is a TOOL - and you chose the right tool to the task. Dont use a screwdriver to paint a wall.

My findings after owning a lot of different phones (and currently user of the HTC TyTN)

1. Microsoft phones are less stable than Symbian Phones (in general)
2. Microsoft phones are not integrated very well. (like - sound from skype cant go to internal speaker/mic - but only to external speaker or headset - and yes i know symbian does not have skype yet.)
3. Symbian phones have a lot longer battery life
4. If you have exchange - MS Rules Smile
5. Symbian sync software is crap and takes to many resources.
6. Build quality on MS phones are less than average. HTC and Samsung seems to be the best build quality. The rest are not very well made.
7. You can say UIQ and S60 etc. are not compatible - but same problem exsist within MS - Different processors requires different software builds.

Basically - the computer part is better on MS platform - the Phone part is better on Symbian.

So stop the stupid teenage bashing and accept each type have different advantages and disadvantages - and start beeing objective.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Well at some point people do grow up Reply with quote

kaz911 wrote:

1. Microsoft phones are less stable than Symbian Phones (in general)
2. Microsoft phones are not integrated very well. (like - sound from skype cant go to internal speaker/mic - but only to external speaker or headset - and yes i know symbian does not have skype yet.)
3. Symbian phones have a lot longer battery life
4. If you have exchange - MS Rules Smile
5. Symbian sync software is crap and takes to many resources.
6. Build quality on MS phones are less than average. HTC and Samsung seems to be the best build quality. The rest are not very well made.
7. You can say UIQ and S60 etc. are not compatible - but same problem exsist within MS - Different processors requires different software builds.

Basically - the computer part is better on MS platform - the Phone part is better on Symbian.

So stop the stupid teenage bashing and accept each type have different advantages and disadvantages - and start beeing objective.


1. Depends on the phone vendor and their implementation, my MIO A701 has a rock solid asian ROM.

2. Depends on handset's hardware implentation.

3. Slower clock speed, and also depends on handset hardware and battery. P990i for example is bulky (big battery).

4. Even if you dont, the consistency and visual appearance of Windows Mobile is useful. Symbian has too many interfaces.

5. No comment, not used it for years.

6. MIO A701 has good build quality, have you seen Gigabyte, HP etc.? don't generalise.

7. Most devices running WM5 are based around ARM processors now, there's few that aren't.

Given people accuse Microsoft of bloatware, why does my A701 have twice as much free memory after bootup than than P990i?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: Well at some point people do grow up Reply with quote

gilesjuk wrote:
1. Depends on the phone vendor and their implementation, my MIO A701 has a rock solid asian ROM.


To hit critical mass in the consumer or commercial market, a product must be rock-solid out-of-the-box. WM requires the time and will to be a bit of a tweak-geek for its functionality to be somewhat less compromised. And then there is always the necessity to backup, backup, backup due to hard resets which occur for no explainable reason. As long as this remains the case, WM will remain a curiosity of marginal acceptance, rather than a universally embraced standard.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the MS platform has the most versatility of the smart-phone platforms being that it most closely emulates an actual desktop OS environment. The synchronizing ease is flawless, w/ the exception of difficulties establishing the synch, which have been resolved since AKU 2.0.

I believe that as the average person evolves, learning to achieve more by leveraging technology, the MS platforms will be setting the standard for the future. Other OSes depend on individuals being sheople and unable to grow and evolve technically. This leads to specificity limitations and inbred proprietary non-compatible hardware and software, in an attempt to force consumers to stay with a given solution.

A fine example of this in the US is Apple's reluctance to make any kind of suggestion that the MS platform based PCs have any credibility, while turning around and bragging that they have been using MS Office productivity suites for ages. At the same time they have been forced to use an Intel chip-set to be able to once again implement a dual boot solution in an attempt to lure PC goers with the ability to have both an MS based computer and MAC OS based computer. I would not be surprised to eventually see that Apple takes on the same perspective as Palm and separates themselves from the MAC OS so that they can continue to compete by selling both MAC OS and MS OS based computer systems. This would be directly in line with what Palm's most recent major move was to stay competitive in the market place.

Diversity in development is where it is at, not proprietary limited greed oriented product, software and service development.

I personally believe in integration vs segregation, that is truly a world perspective. I think that smart-phone OSes which project this capacity will ultimately be dominating the markets in the future.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... but Symbian is not saying that over 80% of Symbian phones sold are from Nokia and that over 90% of new Symbian models are from Nokia.


Of course, they're not saying that - because it isn't true!. How do you explain that big orange block in Japan if the above quote is true? My understanding was that Nokia sell very few phones in Japan...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Symbian Rulez... Reply with quote

Oh you are all just a bunch of retarded idiots!!! I'm not talkin’ just about this post today - I'm watchin’ you guys here batchin’ over Symbian all the time but I’m damn sure almost non of you actually had a chance to work with any Symbian device. My friends – there's only one small detail about Symbian devices – there’s no Windows in it – so they can actually WORK! I'm everyday hardcore WM user for years now (currently on HTC Artemis), coz company where I work is a big dealer for HTC(Qtek) so I'm able to use almost all devices in the market and compare them with Symbian devices. So I know that Symbian is WAY better system than WM and that's going to stay that way for at least the day that Vista Mobile will be out. Till that day you can all dream about Symbian! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinger wrote:
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... but Symbian is not saying that over 80% of Symbian phones sold are from Nokia and that over 90% of new Symbian models are from Nokia.


Of course, they're not saying that - because it isn't true!. How do you explain that big orange block in Japan if the above quote is true? My understanding was that Nokia sell very few phones in Japan...


some peole simple cannot got over tha fact, that even matsushita and sanyo sell more smartphones (symbian powered of course) then HTC combined ... Cool
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