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The most powerful Pocket PC phone in the world will be released in USA next week
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: The most powerful Pocket PC phone in the world will be released in USA next week Reply with quote

Cingular 8525 is a Cingular branded HTC Hermes Pocket PC phone and now it is available in USA, so wow also U.S. Americans can enjoy the power of Windows Mobile to the full extent. Recently Kevin Rose from Digg.com ...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most powerful HTC phone more like, others have 500+ Mhz.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: This, or the HTC P3600 ("Trinity")? Reply with quote

I've been eyeing up this phone for what seems like forever (since HTC announced it in the summer) as the device to pull me away from my trusty but non-3G Treo 650.

But I'm having second thoughts, now. The HTC P3600 (aka Trinity) is smaller, but has no keyboard. My biggest problem with the Treo has been size. A smaller device would be great. But will the lack of keyboard be a problem? I definitely do more IM, text and email than talking.

Does anyone have experience of making a similar switch?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gilesjuk wrote:
Most powerful HTC phone more like, others have 500+ Mhz.


Intel 520 MHz is roughly the same speed as Samsung 400 MHz that this phone features.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: This, or the HTC P3600 ("Trinity")? Reply with quote

interlard wrote:
But will the lack of keyboard be a problem? I definitely do more IM, text and email than talking.


yes, you are a kind of guy that needs keyboard. Remember: Treo 750v is coming to USA this year yet too, but it has no Wi-Fi.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
Intel 520 MHz is roughly the same speed as Samsung 400 MHz that this phone features.

Ah - so it is one of the most powerful phones available today - along with the i730 and i830.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: This, or the HTC P3600 ("Trinity")? Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
yes, you are a kind of guy that needs keyboard. Remember: Treo 750v is coming to USA this year yet too, but it has no Wi-Fi.


It's very true. But will I want to trade-off a keyboard for a more comfy pocket experience (I only wear the holster thing at work, it's too spaz to wear outside)? How annoying is screen-based input on WM5? Before I got into the keyboard thing with the Treos 180 and 650, I used to be pretty fast at writing Graffiti 1 on a Palm. Is it really really worth putting up with the extra bulk to have the keyboard?

As for Windows Treos: sadly there's no GSM Treo (WM5 or Palm) that supports 3G data. So it's got to be the Cingular 8525 or forking out full-price for a HTC P3600. With 3G data I think wi-fi is redundant, but since it's in there, I may use it now and then.

Any more advice to help me make up my mind?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: This, or the HTC P3600 ("Trinity")? Reply with quote

interlard wrote:
msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
yes, you are a kind of guy that needs keyboard. Remember: Treo 750v is coming to USA this year yet too, but it has no Wi-Fi.


As for Windows Treos: sadly there's no GSM Treo (WM5 or Palm) that supports 3G data. So it's got to be the Cingular 8525 or forking out full-price for a HTC P3600. With 3G data I think wi-fi is redundant, but since it's in there, I may use it now and then.

Any more advice to help me make up my mind?


Um, dude, you don't know that the Treo 750v supports UMTS and is upgradable to HSDPA?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: The Most Powerful Phone, YEAH RIGHT! Reply with quote

For those who say that this is the most powerful phone, I have an O2 Xda Exec that says different. That whole deal about the Samsung processor is all speculation (in my opinion). And if you really want to get technical: these newer WM5 devices do not run half as effeciantly as the WM 2003SE devices which used flash memory. My old PPC 6600 (also known as (I-Mate PDA 2k, amongst other things) only had about a 300MHz prcessor but the fact that it used flash memory allowed it to run circles arount by 520MHz Xda. I guess we have compramised speed for reliability.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
gilesjuk wrote:
Most powerful HTC phone more like, others have 500+ Mhz.


Intel 520 MHz is roughly the same speed as Samsung 400 MHz that this phone features.


In what respect? I know for sure that devices who used flash memory run way several times more efficiantly, opposed to using the ROM as RAM ideology of WM5.
Please let me know if I am mistaken. This is in no way the most powerful device.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fnordelus wrote:

Please let me know if I am mistaken. This is in no way the most powerful device.


by "powerful" I was meaning not just processor but also features, that include genuine wheel and HSDPA (fast UMTS)! Not many phones support HSDPA yet!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:32 am    Post subject: Cingular 8525 Reply with quote

I currently have a Sprint PPC 6700. Although the device is pretty good when it works, the network availability has been poor. I am considering changing to Cingular and the 8525. Also considering Verizon, but they haven't reached my town yet (20 miles away).

But, I would really prefer a device with the 8525 features minus a slide out keyboard. - Makes the device smaller and I prefer the onscreen keyboard with stylus.

Any suggestions for a device that fits this description available now or in the near future? Am I naive in being irked that service shows EVO and 4 bars one minute and Roaming with no bars a few minutes later in the same location? Are all providers this variable?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: Cingular 8525 Reply with quote

BethM wrote:

But, I would really prefer a device with the 8525 features minus a slide out keyboard. - Makes the device smaller and I prefer the onscreen keyboard with stylus.

Any suggestions for a device that fits this description available now or in the near future? Am I naive in being irked that service shows EVO and 4 bars one minute and Roaming with no bars a few minutes later in the same location? Are all providers this variable?


I recommend HTC Trinity - a Keyboard-less Pocket PC phone that has PDA.

Regarding various indications in the same place - yes it happens when network saturates for example.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: HTC Trinity Reply with quote

Thank you. I will check into the Trinity and see if Cingular offers it here.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: HTC Trinity Reply with quote

BethM wrote:
Thank you. I will check into the Trinity and see if Cingular offers it here.


and it is HSDPA , not "PDA" as I said by mistake Embarassed

personally I need to have QWERTY keyboard with single handed usage but I know that many people are happy with touchscreen-only solution - I can understand them because having touch screen is my 2nd "must have" feature Cool
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