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msmobiles.com_robot
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 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: Real life photos of HTC Kaiser surface - thin 3G phone with HSDPA and GPS but still no VGA display |
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It looks like days of HTC Hermes are counted and it will be replaced by HTC Kaiser - a thinner version that adds built-in GPS and innovative flip-up mechanism:
No wonder HTC is hiding HTC Kaiser from the wo...
Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/6183.html |
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kvee
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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What's next in the range? HTC Rommel or HTC Goebels maybe?
Presumably by the time this model hits the market it will have WM6 as its O/S
I can imagine HTC are p***** off to see photos of this test model on the net already. |
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rmg
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Looks verry nice.
will be interesting to see how this stacks up against the ETEN x800 with qwerty. (M900?)
Eten has VGA and SirfstarIII whilst this will probably be smaller/thinner and has the need keyboard lift thingy.
Either one will make an excellent replacement for my ageing wizard. |
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gilesjuk
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see why they don't just have a clamshell hinge, yes you need an external display. But at the same time you don't lose a third of the available keyboard space of the unit.
Having the screen on the inside means it doesn't need so much protection from a carry case. I can flip open a clamsheel phone much faster than I can slide a slider phone. |
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stephman
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| gilesjuk wrote: | I don't see why they don't just have a clamshell hinge, yes you need an external display. But at the same time you don't lose a third of the available keyboard space of the unit.
Having the screen on the inside means it doesn't need so much protection from a carry case. I can flip open a clamsheel phone much faster than I can slide a slider phone. |
There's less motion involved to slide a keyboard out than to flip a clamshell open. |
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Pir8
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: not quite there yet.... |
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Hmm the Eten X800 beats this phone in many aspects....
HTC is missing:
FM Radio
Camera Light ( at least on those pictures it seems it no longer has it)
VGA Display
Make it smaller it's Still too big......
Forget about that sliding keyboard (It's better a thinner phone than that sliding keyboard.)
if you need a sliding keyboard just get a Notebook.
If HTC include those features then it will be the greatest. |
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gilesjuk
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| stephman wrote: | | gilesjuk wrote: | I don't see why they don't just have a clamshell hinge, yes you need an external display. But at the same time you don't lose a third of the available keyboard space of the unit.
Having the screen on the inside means it doesn't need so much protection from a carry case. I can flip open a clamsheel phone much faster than I can slide a slider phone. |
There's less motion involved to slide a keyboard out than to flip a clamshell open. |
Having owned both I disagree, sliders are more fiddly, you have to push them across carefully with equal force on both sides. I have an old clamshell Nokia 9210 and I can open that in half the time of a slider. Opening a clamshell is like opening a book etc. |
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MTM
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| gilesjuk wrote: | | Having owned both I disagree, sliders are more fiddly, you have to push them across carefully with equal force on both sides. I have an old clamshell Nokia 9210 and I can open that in half the time of a slider. Opening a clamshell is like opening a book etc. |
With a clamshell form factor the main screen wouldn't be available when you use it one-handed. A device like this, for me at least, seems like a device you would use about 50% of the time on-handed with the slider closed and the other 50% two-handed with the slider open. Making it like a clamshell would seriously hinder it in being easily used one-handed, when e.g. you just need to take a quick look at your mail.
I would think both sliders and clamshells are equally hard/easy to open, but in my eyes the slider's advantage is you don't need to slide it open every time you want to use it. The clamshell has other advantages - some of which you say. |
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gilesjuk
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Take a look at the Nokia E90, the external screen and internal screen can show the same application, the application reformats itself to suit.
This sort of innovation is sorely lacking in Windows Mobile, Microsoft decided this sort of technology would be better used in laptops!!  how can they get it so wrong? |
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holybear
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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I can't see the other pictures as the website appears to be down, but...
The one picture we see here makes me feel like the soft keys are almost inaccessible on the keyboard.
Can this really be the way it's supposed to be?
The specs, however, make me feel this would be close to my dreamdevice.
I don't care about radio, Don't want it any smaller (I want to READ things on the screen, thank you) and I really love the keyboard on my p4350.
| Quote: | | if you need a sliding keyboard just get a Notebook. |
Howsabout I get this phone and you get the X800 instead. |
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holybear
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| gilesjuk wrote: | | Having owned both I disagree, sliders are more fiddly, you have to push them across carefully with equal force on both sides. I have an old clamshell Nokia 9210 and I can open that in half the time of a slider. Opening a clamshell is like opening a book etc. |
Obviously, you haven't experienced the slider on the p4350.
I can open it with just my thumb holding it in one hand. |
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