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msmobiles.com_robot · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215

The most over-hyped device in history of mankind - Apple iPhone - goes on sale today in USA, and by the end of 2007 also in Europe and in 2008 also in Asia. Some analysts say that iPhone is a "game changer" and it...

Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/6485.html

netboy · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 349 Location: Bayarea, CA USA

you just dont get it! either does HTC! it's not about what features Windows Mobiles has, and what features iphone doesnt have!
and it' also not about MULTI-TOUCH!
iphone will sell cus people dont want to carry ipod and a cellphone!
they want iphone cus it' IPOD+PHONE!

adamz · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 44

Don't forget...
- the ability to cut/copy/paste things from one program to another.
- Voice dialing, command, recognition
- Syncing contact photos with Outlook
- The ability to search contacts by typing a name
- The ability to search Media Library (WM6 has it if you just type a song name)
- The ability to send/recieve MMS messages
- The ability to connect to a bluetooth GPS reciever (no can do on iPhone)
- The ability to share files via bluetooth/infrared

jerryf101 · Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Bay Area

Can you please repost or edit the original post with links to some of the items you mention like other Skype like tools. As many links to the kinds of tools you describe would really be helpful.

Thanks.

gilesjuk · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 312

I suggest people watch this video before commenting about the iPhone:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour.html

If you then aren't convinced at how great the interface is and how simple to use a phone can be, then you probably like awkward technology.

I'm convinced it has a great interface and is easy to use. I'm just not convinced at the pricing and expandability. If there was a GPS solution for it and it was cheaper then i would get one.

netboy · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 349 Location: Bayarea, CA USA

statusparanoia · Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 10

How on earth is that objective?

You have only considered the features that a potential Windows Mobile user would consider. How about:

Size
Style
Ease of use
Brand image
Media playing capabilities
Reliability
Battery life

Don't get me wrong, I'm a self confessed Microsoft fanboy but yet again you missed the mark on this one. People won't buy the iPhone for what it can do, they will buy it for what it is.

Proto732 · Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Central NJ.

I can completely appreciate the slick Apple interface and some of the design thought that went into how the device works (for example, watch the keyboard video). Increasing the target area for the predicted next letters is a perfect example of great thinking.

A testament to the interface is how quickly skins and similar apps (iContact) started popping up for WM.

For their first device I think the iPhone looks great. I think if the iPhone can bring some of that different thinking to Windows Mobile through competition ... that is great! WM needs a kick in the pants. Exclamation

and for that matter ... advertising! Why haven't I ever seen those funny WM commecerials, with the guy in crazy situations they had up on the MS site, on TV???!!!??? Rolling Eyes

I'm a true WM fan, but hey ... everytime I pickup my xv6700 and find that it has mysteriously locked up for some unkown reason, for some unknown amount of time, and VZW tells me to Hard Reset it (again) ... I get a little closer to throwing it against a brick wall.
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yyl · Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 3

I am a long-term WM fan. Regardless of features and extensibility, I do feel that iPhone has a very well-done user interface, and provided a new direction for navigating easily on a mobile device. (When I use WM device, I always feel that I am squinting my eyes and use my finger tip to poke at little menu or button.)

The reason why I post is that, this comparison between iPhone and WM is not fair. In this article, we are comparing a single device (iPhone) against a group of hundreds of WM devices as a whole. It is true that some WM device has GPS, some has high-res screen, and some has high-capacity storage, but all these high-end features do not usually exist in one single device (under $700). It is like comparing one person against the best talents of one hundred people combined.

Also, I believe in a few months, we will see some third-party applications and hardware accessories designed for iPhone. Just look at iPod, and we know that Apple will have a good game plan. But for now, I am happy with my WM5 Treo and 3G network. Smile

PPCMD · Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 43 Location: New York

What company makes visual voice mail for Windows Mobile Smartphone or pocketpc? I have an 80GB Ipod so I have no immediate needs for the iphone, and besides we all know that v.2.0 will come next year at MAC World right. But I would like visual voicemail.

adrusa · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 10

iPhone is great, but why should it not be? It had the benefit of studying all other handsets from WM, to treos, Nokia, Moto and everyone else. Put their best legs forward, remedied their weaknesses etc. Unless you are dumb, you should be better than the guy you are copying!

The only sad part is that WM could be where iPhone is now and even beyond but for this stupid but commercially sound decision of HTC and M$$ to make only incremental improvements to WM handsets, wifib today, wifig tomorrow, bluetooth1.1 today etc. This got all of us into the habit of buying new phones every 6 months or thereabout.

I hope iPhone will succeed and drive HTC and M$$ out of business, but I know it will not unless apple resist the temptation of incremental improvements.

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rassah · Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 51

Main reason I really don't like the iPhone is because it seems extremely overpriced for what you get. If the iPhone was sold for about $200 or so, being able to do only what a comparatively similar feature-wise WM device can, I think it would be a great device. But pricing it on par with some of the most capable WM devices, when all it has going for it is a pretty look and making you look cool to people who don't know any better, makes it a huge rip-off. I guess it mainly bugs me because I feel like I am in-the-know on these things, and they're swindling a whole bunch of stupid ininformed people with "brand new, revolutionary features" from late 90's early 2000's.
I felt the same way when GPS started to come up in small personal navigation devices. You could spend $1,200 on a Garmin GPS device with a touch screen and 2D maps (which a few of my friends did despite my recomendations not to), or you could spend $200 on a cheap Dell PDA, another $100 on a bluetooth GPS, and another $100 to $150 on a good 3D GPS map software, for a total of $400 to $450, and with a device that does much more than just show maps. I knew about it, most other people did not, so they wasted their money. Just like these people will.

Stoic33 · Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 96

As a long standing MS Mobile user, owner of far too many devices (7+).
I have to admit the iPhone is cool for what it is, features and apps aside the iPhone looks slick (something I’ve wanted MS to do for years, instead of wasting their money on that Zune contraption), it also looks very responsive (even the most high end MS phone takes a while to switch between landscape /portrait and load apps) never mind the few times it hangs..

Personally I wont be buying an iPhone (I prefer the one handed convenience of a Smartphone over any PPC/TouchUI), but I hope MS wakes up, stops goofing around and starts taking their mobile business seriously, cos what they have now isn’t cutting it and we as users have been criticizing them for years..

Nb. The iPhone is a ‘Platform’and platforms are powerful as it makes it easy for developers to make the most of the h/w (yep the iphone is sort of closed, but that doesn’t stop apple/partners e.g. YouTube ..etc).. MS needs to get into the phone platform business fast , just as they did with the Xbox360 in the games industry, incompatibility kills at the cutting edge..

Nb2. The MsMobiles feature comparison between the iPhone & Windows Mobile is completely unjust (as much as i like MsMobiles) comparing features in a single device i.e. the iPhone against features found across several Windows Mobile devices isn’t fair.. e.g. HSDPA on WM-Smartphones is scarce to say the least, never mind a Smartphone with HSPDA and GPS built-in (that is tell HTC-S730) and the majority of pocket-able WM devices only support 320x240.. either way should have been a mono-e-mono comparison, the best Smartphone/PPC device available today Vs the iPhone..