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msmobiles.com_robot · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215

NBC's Tom Costello visited Microsoft's campus in Redmond, near Seattle, to check out what is Microsoft up to, when it comes to "what is Microsoft's answer to the iPhone?". He recorded a video report about it.
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gilesjuk · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 312

Microsoft is so focussed on business users that it doesn't even know what individuals want from a phone.

They churn out the same dull mobile OS.

I can't say I've seen much real progress in the OS in the 4 years I've been using it.

Sure, more features, all minor ones. A lick of paint to make it look newer.

EJR · Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2629

BrianC · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject:

Not sure the current processing power of handset can handle the vista aero like effects well. I certainly wouldn't want to trade a bit for this kind of eye-candy transparency for performance of the handset in general.

In my opinion, the OS should be there to provide a set of stable and rich functions so that developers can build cool applications. HTC Touch-Flo is a good example in this regard. Hopefully we will see other developers to come up with great applications soon.

gilesjuk · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 312

BrianC · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:52 am Post subject:

rpeppekus · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 9

Hmmm,

I just sold me eten M700 (with Windows Mobile 6). I loved the device. However, whenever I used it quite extensively, which I do every day, after some emails written the keyboard lagged, ate some characters and so forth. Was worse with WM 5 and improved a bit with WM6. However, I switched over to Blackberry 8300 Curve and finally have a reliable phone that always does what it is supposed to.

Surely there are drawbacks as well. But honestly I finally have found THE phone for me.

And for the innovation part of MS WM6: My girlfriend still uses a i-mate JAM, which is still one of the best i-mates ever, which runs with WM 2003 SE (not even WM5) and in everyday usage there are nice improvements in WM6 but really nothing much to write home about.

IF she gets a BB from the company, fine, but she will miss her Sudoku (with stylus) so I rather recommend a HTC Touch to her, which is even nicer to hold and use as her current JAM.

WM could be so much more if MS would put the right resources into it. The iPhone leads some interesting ways for developing, why on earth not follow them?

Even though, after the "newness" factor wears off,most reviewers of the iPhone still say: once you used one, there is no way back. So something they must have done right, which would be worth copying or even imrpoving.

So long,
Ralf

ghl · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 97

I absolutely agree, Ralf !

I never had a JAM (Qtek 9000 = JASJAM and TyTN though...) but a lot of friends had (and still have) one.

Same impression there: not the newest OS any more, a littler bit thick compared to more contemporary devices, but - after a Firmware upgrade - it works and works and works.
(Also *CAN* be used as a phone, which various WM devices offer only theoretically: low volume, bad audio quality, lockups etc.)

For the same reason - still - my phone is a Qtek 8300.
Sound quality excellent (but only after a firmware upgrade), almost no lockups, have about 50 applications installed and working fine.
OK: No GPRS which is a pity, camera only 1.3mpx and no autofocus etc.

However up to now no other WM Smartphone met my requirements, sorry to say...

I expect a lot from the i-mate Ultimate 8150 (could be a smartphone successor to the Qtek 8300) and the ETEN Glofiish X800 (successor to my PDA).

Yet, they get delayed and delayed and delayed...

GPS yes or no Stereo-BT yes or no etc. are gimmicks in my mind - as long as the telephony part is not excellent and the device stable.
I am no gamer or someone who uses his phone just once a day !

The WM platform is somewhat cool, but often I miss its proper integration into (otherwise very powerful) hardware.

Maybe it's arrogance of Microsoft or their lack of REAL cooperation with device vendors (obviously they are too afraid to open up too much of their "patented" fancy OS).

But without 100% close cooperation a device might feature fancy potentials and powerful hardware but the manufacturer is unable to translate this into a stable and performant handset / PDA.

ghl · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 97

PPCMD · Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 43 Location: New York

The iPhone has a slick interface, but what good is an interface if its riddled with bugs. Its true the iPhone is buggy as hell and yet no one steps up and shouts this out. Pot calling Kettle, hello.

What do you get with the iPhone, sure a nice iPod that does video, music and photos (so does my 5Gen) it gets email, but not exchange mail (yeah I know soon, real soon) it has pretty visual voice mail (haven't needed it and won't need it). But the biggest thing you get is web based apps and you CAN NOT install 3rd party apps or change the apps on the page. Finally you can only do one thing at a time with the iPhone, one app at a time.

WindowsMobile is not perfect and M$ is slow to respond but so is any huge company that is not run like a dictatorship (steve jobs inc). But I can put music, videos, 3rd party apps of my choosing, email, voicemail etc, etc.

I can say all of this as a MAC OS user with a MacBook Pro. I love my MAC but I don't sing the praises of the iPhone, its not perfect so people should stop claiming it is.

ryandmiller · Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 22

is that it responds quicker than my jasjar.

barita_lola · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 1

My friend I think it's not about fanciness or dullness. i think it's all about usefulness. and we have to see which OS is more useful then others. there is no doubt that most of the time apple invent something and later windows copy that. even from PC to Zune. so I think window will always get more earning benefit then apple.... because they don't invent anything. Very Happy

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