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 Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: Phone review : gSmart t600 from GIGABYTE - mobile HDTV in your pocket ! |
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Imagine that you would be able to receive standard terrestrial digital TV (in DVB-T standard, in UK known as "FreeView") inside of your mobile phone. Wouldn't it be great? Unlike DVB-H that is especially designed...
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BrianC
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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I believe ETEN has also announced some new phones that would have DVB-T and DVB-H support later this year. Hopefully more WM phones would have this support which I consider just as important as GPS. Now where is HTC?
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EJR
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| BrianC wrote: | I believe ETEN has also announced some new phones that would have DVB-T and DVB-H support later this year.
... Now where is HTC? |
t600 is NOW: it is on sale in selected countries in Europe and Asia. ETEN's phone with DVB-T is not released yet - it is still in testing.
HTC is not interested in this segment because HTC focuses on satisfying needs of mobile operators which are now: to have something that would compete with iPhone... so don't wait for HTC and get yourself t600 ! Personally I think that DVB-T TV is more interesting feature than GPS. |
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BrianC
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Sad but true that all phones get compared to iPhone when it should be iPhone compared against others. To many, it would appear that iPhone has set the benchmark for others to match.
HTC and others should just continue to innovate and bring new features that improve the mobile experience. To me, having mobile TV is a great feature to have, whether it is for the consumer or business phone.
Glad to see Gigabyte do it first, and hopefully ETen to follow. And if HTC doesn't, my next phone (contract expires this Nov) will not be HTC then.
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alcedes
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Given that the US shuts off analog transmission of TV in Feb does that mean that the digital transmissions are available now?
If they are then do they conform to any of these standards that that I see many mobile phones using? |
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EJR
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| alcedes wrote: |
If they are then do they conform to any of these standards that that I see many mobile phones using? |
unfortunately USA goes its own way and will not use DVB-T. I reckon that some Windows Mobile phones with digital TV for USA will also be available but whch one it will be - hard to say. It is like GSM and USA-only CDMA - everybody knows that there is much more phones for worldwide GSM standard than for CDMA... |
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BrianC
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
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The US adopts another standard ATSC which I believe is already available in some states there. Hence comany like Pinnacle has been selling their HDTV tuner cards in US.
Yes, it is quite unfortunate that the world cannot agree to a common standard, as it never does.
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Menneisyys
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| BrianC wrote: | The US adopts another standard ATSC which I believe is already available in some states there. Hence comany like Pinnacle has been selling their HDTV tuner cards in US.
Yes, it is quite unfortunate that the world cannot agree to a common standard, as it never does. |
ATSC is the terrestrial digital broadcast standard with very-very limited support for true mobile receiving (unlike (C)OFDM-based solutions like all of the alternatives), not the handheld-optimized). In the US, it's MediaFlo that is meant for mobile receivers and is, currently, used by Verizon - and will be later supported by T-Mo. Also, DVB-H is pushed by Modeo.
As MediaFlo is developed and pushed by Qualcomm, it's up to Qualcomm to enable it in their chipsets and/or force HTC to start using it. Currently, no WM handheld supports MediaFlo - not even ones with a Qualcomm chipset. In this regard, people living in DVB-H areas are in a far better position because there already are DVB-H-compliant WinMo phones out there.
BTW, I'm working on a Digital TV Bible (to be published this week), in which I explain this all. |
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Menneisyys
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, great and informative review, will link to it from my next Misc news article and from the Digital TV Bible! Some questions (I don't have an access to this model so I'm really interested in your experiences with it) / remarks:
| Quote: | | VITO Audio Notes program for phone-call recording can record both sides of the conversation - what is not possible in all mobile phones - in this way user can auto-record all phone calls if needed |
That's good news! It seems Gigabyte are sticking with allowing for recording calls, unlike HTC (with most of their models) and some other manufacturers / rebranders. Hope their forthcoming, much more advanced models (most importantly, the MS808) will also keep this feature. Then, I may even choose it over the X1 or the V900. (Assuming the latter two won't support call recording.)
| Quote: | | watching TV is using a lot of battery power - roughly 90-120 minutes on one battery charge |
Yup, that's what I expected from a 1300 mAh battery and a somewhat outdated architecture. This may also mean they haven't implemented any kind of hardware MPEG-2 video decoding (the phone is based on the pretty outdated and multimedia-unfriendly PXA270 and has no GPU to do this kind of job) and/or have gone for a tuner with less power consumption (current, top-of-the-line DVB-T receivers "only" consume about 300 mW - that is, about 100 mA at 3.3V). Do you have a figure (with, for example, acbTaskMan) of the CPU usage while playing back stuff? Is it around 60...80...90 % at 520 MHz? (Unfortunately, the PXA270 is very-very power-hungry at high CPU load, unlike most of the alternatives.)
| Quote: | | Stereo headset is also included in the package but it is not working as antenna for the TV reception. |
It seems pretty silly they don't allow for using it as an antenna. This would greatly help receiving DVB-T broadcasts in the VHF III band (but not any more in the upper bands), which is used in some countries already.
| Quote: | | TV reception is possible also in moving vehicles like cars and trains, and during our tests in a car: if the car speed is above 80 km per hour the signal is breaking out from tme to time and at 110 km per hour the signal reception becomes not possible |
Do you know whether these were 2k or 8k OFDM broadcasts? (Did you make these tests in the UK?)
BTW, a quick correction:
| Quote: | | Remote Desktop allows for connection to Windows Server 2003 computers |
Not only them, but also Win2k / XP Pro / Vista ones. |
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jaja
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: Thats not HDTV |
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| DVB-T does 576 Max. HDTV is 720P, 1080i ore 1080p |
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Alkali
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Africa |
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Hi guys!
Will these device work in Africa?Nigeria to be precise.
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Menneisyys
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Africa |
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| Alkali wrote: | Hi guys!
Will these device work in Africa?Nigeria to be precise. |
Nope - Nigeria doesn't have any kind of digi broadcasts (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Digital_broadcast_standards.svg ). Unfortunately, analogue casts aren't supported by any new WM phones.
The first gsmart phone did have an analogue tuner; go for it if you want to watch TV. |
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Menneisyys
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| BrianC wrote: | | Glad to see Gigabyte do it first, and hopefully ETen to follow. And if HTC doesn't, my next phone (contract expires this Nov) will not be HTC then. |
I REALLY hoped for the X1 to contain a TV receiver... too bad they don't seem to want to include one.
My other disappointment with Qualcomm-based WM phones is that NONE of them support MediaFLO... what a missed chance! |
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andyju
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: DVB-T TV Mobile Phone |
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