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msmobiles.com_robot
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Popular PAPER magazine about Windows Mobile shuts down, publisher starts new one about iPhone |
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While Microsoft employees working on Windows Mobile have secure jobs thanks to corporate structures of cash-rich Microsoft, the ecosystem of Windows Mobile is falling apart: developers stop making software for Windo...
Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/7594.html |
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alcedes

Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, this sucks.
I guess I'll have to enjoy my new subscription to iPhone Life.
I can see why the phone companies would not want to cooperate. The last thing you would want to do is inform your customers that many of the services that they pay for through the phone company can be acquired elsewhere for cheaper prices or for free. _________________ MCAD .Net , MCTS (Web, Windows) |
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SPPassion
Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 11 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: |
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This is a sad news for Windows Mobile community. Magazine was ok since most of the news/articles published are already available online sites like this one but still at the Border's Magazine counter it's nice to see WM magazine amongst 5-6 iPhone publications.. It's a good resource magazine for newbies switching from RAZR to WM Smartphone. _________________ Inder |
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fatcatz
Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 17
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| I don't understand their business direction, their market is and will always be small, and the fact that the latest information is available online does not help. Instead of chasing what is in fashion now why not just dedicate a magazine to all smartphone devices (Smartphone Life)? What if iPhone does not become popular anymore, what if Android becomes the new must have phone, will Hal end iPhone Life and start a new mag called Android Life? |
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kdskamal
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 38
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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I appreciate his decision. There is no point of running any kind of magazine, if the returns are not adequate.
I also agree, if he comes out with android life next year(and drops iphone life in case iPhone flops), I would again call it a good business decision. |
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EJR

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2629
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| fatcatz wrote: | | Instead of chasing what is in fashion now why not just dedicate a magazine to all smartphone devices (Smartphone Life)? ? |
people usually are interested in those devices that their own and don't buy magazines about everything
regarding Hal's decision: I reckon that he was also not satisfied with support that Microsoft was giving him |
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benjitek
Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 19
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Edward J.R., who wrote this posting, makes a lot of statements in the 1st paragraph, but provides no backup. Developers are making 100 times more... windows mobile websites are loosing traffic 'bigtime'... online stores carrying windows mobile products are going bankrupt...
Which developers are making 100 times more? Which websites are losing traffic? Which online stores have gone bankrupt?
Who reads these magazines anyway? I bought one once, at a airport bookstore, and felt I could just as easily tossed a few bucks into the garbage... |
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BrianC
Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 183 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I think the iPhone magazine may be more viable these days. Fact is there are many iPhone users out there and the number is growing strongly. And many of these iPhone users have no or little idea about techology. They buy iPhone because many others do and it is supposed to be cool. So follow the crowd.
And when you have an iPhone and don't know anything, a magazine like these can actually help. _________________ Proud owner of HTC Touch Diamond and i-mate JASJAM. |
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Bluetoof
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| BrianC wrote: | I think the iPhone magazine may be more viable these days. Fact is there are many iPhone users out there and the number is growing strongly. And many of these iPhone users have no or little idea about techology. They buy iPhone because many others do and it is supposed to be cool. So follow the crowd.
And when you have an iPhone and don't know anything, a magazine like these can actually help. |
Haha exactly. iPhone users aren't really technologically inclined. They don't read blogs as much or don't dig into the guts of their device. |
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alcedes

Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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In thinking about what was said about the carriers not being cooperative, from a business standpoint I can see why they would not cooperate. It comes down to competing interest.
If one of the carriers were to give a customer a free issue upon purchase of the phone then the customer would have a reference by which they would become aware of what their purchased phone can and can't do compared to other phones that are available. They would also have a means by which to become aware of the features that the carriers routinly strip out and know of sources that are offering cheaper or free alternatives for services that the carrier sells. Giving out free issues could result in a higher return rate within the 30 day return period. _________________ MCAD .Net , MCTS (Web, Windows) |
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Menneisyys
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 179
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| kdskamal wrote: | I appreciate his decision. There is no point of running any kind of magazine, if the returns are not adequate.
I also agree, if he comes out with android life next year(and drops iphone life in case iPhone flops), I would again call it a good business decision. |
actually, he's planning RIM Blackberry- and Android-specific mags (issues) as well - see the original blog entry at http://pocketpcmag.com/cms/finalissue :
"Suspension means that we have no plans to publish future Windows Mobile issues. However, we have left the door open, particularly if a sponsor or buyer steps forward. Our focus in 2009 will be the four scheduled iPhone Life issues, which we will publish under the umbrella title of Smartphone Magazine under the same newsstand distribution as Smartphone & Pocket PC magazine. That title and our 4 iPhone issue 2009 schedule leaves us space to produce more Windows Mobile issues, a Google Android issue, a RIM Blackberry edition, or a generic Smartphone issue depending on where the opportunities lie."
Personally, I think every cloud has a silver lining: now that the mag goes multiplatform, covering everything (but the, in the US, almost non-existant Symbian), I will be able to make much better use of my multiplatform (BB, iPhone (, Symbian)) knowledge in tech editing the mag and helping in producing articles / writing blog posts. Furthermore, lately, it's Apple's iPhone that has been the most innovative and intuitive product other manufacturers (Nokia, HTC or even RIM with their forthcoming touchscreen model etc.) are trying to copy / reproduce, with, in cases, pretty moderate success, I think it's a good move to start covering at least the iPhone (and, of course, the other mobile OS'es as well). Let's always cover the latest and greatest, the most innovative technology
NB. this all is my personal opinion, NOT (necessarily) that of the Mag. |
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EJR

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2629
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Menneisyys wrote: | now that the mag goes multiplatform, covering everything
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I don't agree with your estimation that Hal will make regularly magazines for several platforms. He will make some (few) issues but the only regular magazine will be about iPhone only - iPhone Life.
anyways, do you have day job or you work full time for Hal ? |
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Physboy

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 202
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Give me a break, iPhone is a fad. It is only kewl now to those who do not know any better, but sooner or later they will all know better. The fact of the matter is that the iPhone is no more stable and does not offer any more functionality, (less actually) than other mobile platforms.
Eventually people will catch on and the frenzy will be over. I have yet to recommend this device to any of my clients and will not, until I see that there is any true benefit to the end user besides the kewl factor. Currently it is not so kewl to have your calls dropped so often and get bad signals, as well as have your device lock up more times than even a WM device with inappropriate hardware/software matching (most of the early WM devices). I have been telling my clients that purchased an iPhone 2G, that if they do not need the ability to download apps they should just keep the pre-2.0 software to keep the device stable. _________________ Ignoring Troll Behavior in Pursuit of Deterring Disinformation and Off-Topic, Antagonism.
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Menneisyys
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 179
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| EJR wrote: | | Menneisyys wrote: | now that the mag goes multiplatform, covering everything
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I don't agree with your estimation that Hal will make regularly magazines for several platforms. He will make some (few) issues but the only regular magazine will be about iPhone only - iPhone Life. |
I don't think he won't start, say, a RIM BlackBerry mag if the RIM issue turns out to be a business success.
| Quote: | | anyways, do you have day job or you work full time for Hal ? |
Nope, I'm just doing this for fun, in my free time and mostly for free, except for Hal's having sent me some free hardware - an iPAQ 210, hx4700, two old Cassiopeias and his also covering my trip to the MWC at Barcelona.
The PPCMag blog is my "home", albeit I also cross-post my articles to the user forums so that they have even bigger exposure (particularly via sticky forum posts). |
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alcedes

Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I just received my first issue of "iPhone Life" today. Unfortunatly, as a person that is a regular reader of Engadget.com, tuaw.com, and other other sites I found that the magazine is just not for me, it's full of things of which I am already aware, though it may be a perfect magazine for some other people.
I plan to change my mailing address on the account so that it will be delivered to some one that can better appreciate the magazine. _________________ MCAD .Net , MCTS (Web, Windows) |
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