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Mobile cloud from Microsoft emerges: Microsoft My Phone aka SkyBox

 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: Mobile cloud from Microsoft emerges: Microsoft My Phone aka SkyBox Reply with quote

Somebody at Microsoft couldn't wait till February 16 when it will be announced officialloy and the website is (partially) already up! It looks like this:




... and it works now only for "Windows Mobile 6+"...

Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/8011.html
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now how the fudge is that any different from syncing with outlook or exchange and syncing your files normally? For the last 3 months I've been trying to come up with reasons not to move to blackberry platform
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CurlyFatAngry wrote:
Now how the fudge is that any different from syncing with outlook or exchange and syncing your files normally?


Not every one has access to an Exchange server, nor does every one have access to outlook. Outlook used to come with Windows Mobile phones but that's not always the case.

One of the advantages that this service has is that after setup it doesn't require the user to perform any action to ensure their data is up to date since the information is backed up automatically. While you can ensure that your information is backed up by manualy syncing the phone to your computer on a regular basis some people won't do that (just as some people don't backup the files on their computer on a regular basis). This service allows even the person that would otherwise be neglectful to be covered.

I think this service caters to a different target customer than the Exchange solution does. Exchange combined wyth System Center Mobile Device Manager (SCMDM) gives a company the ability to have a lot of the functionality that this service will provide in addition to more advanced managment of the device. With SCMDM if a device is lost or stolen you can remotly erase its contents. You can also restrict how the device can be used such as disabling the camera, prevent certain programs from being run, and remotly install programs onto a selected groups of devices over the air.

I personally am undecided about what I will do once this service is available. Should I keep the phone associated with the Exchange account and continue to use Mesh to back up my files, or should I take advantage of the free services that Microsoft will provide?[/list][/list]
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't this just be a mesh app?? SkyBox seems like it directly competes with Mesh Services.. Microsoft's online Storage solutions are fragmented at best(200MB skybox, 5GB Mesh, 25GB Skydrive [none really deliver a viable Services platform except mesh]). It feels like there's no solid direction but just hopes that one will catch on.
Hopefully this all has a mesh backend or Ive got to wonder what is Mesh's relevance moving forward if Microsoft is not using it as there own sync framework? I had very high hopes to be able to write cloud services on the mesh that could access my device through a central service gateway ie. Mesh on the PPC with SilverLight. high hopes I guess Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another service with another domain!! Why doesn’t Microsoft consolidate its offerings to a single domain (that people can remember and build a strong brand.. maybe Live.com or a better sounding domain) and provide a one stop shop for Xbox, Zune and WinMo services.

Apple has MobileMe that replaced .mac.. why cant MS also have a one stop shop for all its mobile, xbox and zune offerings (i.e. mail, sync, downloads, games, app shop .etc).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"MY PHONE"?? Sounds like Chinese! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

werD420 wrote:
Shouldn't this just be a mesh app?? SkyBox seems like it directly competes with Mesh Services.. Microsoft's online Storage solutions are fragmented at best(200MB skybox, 5GB Mesh, 25GB Skydrive [none really deliver a viable Services platform except mesh]).


I actually found Mesh and Skydrive to be useful for different purposes. I use Skydrive to deliver files to an individual or to share files on a forum while Mesh is more useful for files that are really just for me to use. While there's overlap in the services being offered it also seems that each one of these services is spealized for its respective problem domain.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are useful for different purposes because they are setup for different purposes. Skydrive is setup better for public folders(thats the only reason I use it as well). By fragmented I mean that there is currently no legitimate connectivity for Mesh,SkyBox, and SkyDrive. In fact, to run these services on 1 pc and 1 phone it takes 3 different web sites and 3 different applications(That's assuming SkyBox won't a desktop client). This is indeed a fragmented user experience.

Anyway, my post was not about the overlapping nature of Mesh and Skydrive it was about the fact that Microsoft is not showing interest in the Live Framework or Mesh Services even internally for their new applications that are obviously Service Oriented and focus on synchronization.
https://www.mesh.com/web/developer.aspx
Mesh is not a tool to just sync your files and access them remotely. It was promised to be an application delivery platform for service enhanced apps that didnt need immediate connectivity to offer a good experience. This is why I bring issue with the nature of SkyBox and the apparent lack of impact that mesh is having internally with MS.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure the site looks like that? I don't see "www.msmobiles.com" on the page when I navigate to it:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/myphone/myphone.aspx
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skybox is now Myphone
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