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Andrew Orlowski pretends to be a Brit although he lives in USA and doesn't have English ancestry. He writes texts for British tabloid "The Register" that pretends to be anti-Microsoft but is running huge Microsof...

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If you take the feeling you have right now toward Ansrew Orlowski, you may understand how people feel about your very own tabloid style journalism (and if you don't like The Register, why did you steal their logo?

Anyway, why are you so insecure about Microsoft Windows Mobile that you have to keep spreading lies about Symbian? Why can't you be content with what your phone does and be so destructive toward a technology you neither use or want to use?

As far as your arguments in this, and previous articles go, you are trying dismiss Symbian as a closed architecture that cannot be expanded, yet we see that even recently, support for Ogg Vorbis ringtones has been added by using the Multimedia Framework that is available for developers. That's not a closed and nailed-down system that cannot expand. I'm not going to say "Can your Windows Mobile do that" because if it can't, one day it will - but my point is that Symbian is not what you make it out to be. Think about it; there's tonnes of stuff I can't do on my MPx200 which my friends can do on their Nokia 6600 (MiniGPS, integrated handling of Fax, games with 20fps 3D graphics, MMS without having to 'bolt on' a third party application, even access Shares on a Windows domain! Just think man, will you?

As for brand recognition, I think that saying Microsoft os second only to Coka-Cola is only half the argument. People also recognise Hitler and Saddam Hussein, but that doesn't make them nice people.

What do people think of Coka-Cola. Ask the man in the street and they will talk about hot days down the beach with a bottle of refreshing cold-drink. Ask them what they think of Microsoft and they'll start talking about money and crashing computers.

Please, try and think about what you say and carry out research before you pass judgement because at the moment, your work is deceptive, incompetent, abusive, tabloid and ammateurish (at least Andrew Orlowski's writing is colourful, entertaining and informed).

Oh yes, and one final question (you ignore all my other questions, don't ignore this one, if you're a real man); What on earth does a journalist's nationality have to do with their work? Why do you have to bring his nationality into the equation? It matters nothing! A person's ancestry, in this day and age, does not dictate a person's nationality - there are plenty of people in the UK who have no British ancestry, but they are as British as I am. So please, stop being racist or you won't be allowed to join the European Union.

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Thank you for replying, it's appreciated.

First of all then, Nokia may have a large share in Symbian, but the other manufacturers still have more of a say in Symbian than they do in Windows Mobile. Saying that Symbian is a puppet of Nokia is plain wrong because Nokia does not pull all the strings, just most of them.

Microsoft is not recognised as a trusted brand by any of the 800+ people with whom I work, or the others with whom I associate socially. Microsoft is always associated by IT literate people as monopolistic, expensive and controlling. By those who don't understand computers, it's seen as unreliable and rich. That's the bottom line. Microsoft is where it is on the desktop because it has the desktop by the goolies and PC manufacturers are the puppets of Microsoft (look, there's that 'P' word again - now compare the control Microsoft has over PC manufacturers with the control Nokia has over Symbian and see who does a better job).

Finally, I see nationality as a combination of the culture in which you were brought up and the values you have. If Andrew Orlowski wants to identify himself as British (and I am sure that he has reason to do so), then let him do so.

Actually, why do you say that he's not British? I can't just take it as true just because you said it is so, and the only reason you gave was that he has no British ancestry. It's not important to me, but if you say that it reflects his journalistic integrity, then it is obviously important to you, so why do you make the claim that he's not British? Have you read his life story? Do you know all about his family and how/where he was brought up and with what values? Do you know him personally?

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TANKERx : "Oh yes, and one final question (you ignore all my other questions, don't ignore this one, if you're a real man); What on earth does a journalist's nationality have to do with their work? Why do you have to bring his nationality into the equation? It matters nothing! A person's ancestry, in this day and age, does not dictate a person's nationality - there are plenty of people in the UK who have no British ancestry, but they are as British as I am"

And now we have the final despicable act of a Euro-bigot.
Listen, if a journalist's nationality has nothing to do with their work, how come the BBC spends their entire lives spewing out vicious anti-American propaganda, disinformation and dirty tricks, morning, day and night, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year? Even your own independent government commission found out the BBC lies fluently then does everything it can to cover up their rabid lies.
And how come the Mirror, The Independent and The Guardian have spent the last 10 years at least stirring up as much anti-American hatred andasmuch lies as they can?

Of course the Nationality of a journalist has EVERYTHING to do with what they publish about an American company...as you Euro-crazies have proved to us in America , time and time again.

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OwusuKwasi, let me clarify some things;

The Mirror didn't fake the photographs, they were duped into believing they were real. While I believe that The Mirror made a big mistake in publishing them, it remains that there is a difference between making a fake photograph and believing that a fake photograph is actually real. Honest, there is.

The Register makes it clear in its banner, "Biting the hand the feeds IT", that it is not a soft puppy that merely regurgitate press-releases by companies and people. And while it has exposed faults in the products, processes and politics of Microsoft, it has also done the same for just about every company and corporation - including Nokia. But you really should learn to see beyond the obvious tongue-in-cheek humour that the site adopts..... for example, BOFH isn't real.

Also, I never said that MSMobiles stole it's style from The Register, only it's logo - and if you can't see the similarity, then I must conclude that you have some issues with which I am unable to help, but please, allow me to illustrate what I mean and maybe you'll understand;




Now, the comparisons. I never said that Microsoft was as evil as Hitler or Saddam Hussein; I merely pointed out that 'brand awareness' doesn't mean that any given brand is wonderful. Coka Cola's brand awareness doesn't mean that Coka Cola won't rot your teeth, Microsoft's brand awareness doesn't mean that it produces good products and Microsoft's brand awareness doesn't mean that all the bugs have been eliminated from my Microsoft Smartphone. Brand awareness alone means nothing about the product. People recognise Microsoft - people recognise hitler. That does not mean that they are the same, it just means that recognition means nothing about the goodness, quality and morality of a thing. Can you understand that? Can you get it?

Your accusations against Nokia's FUD were quite amusing. You almost convinced me that Microsoft was incapable of abusing their position; but then I remembered things like; BeOS and Dell, LindowsOS (Anti-Competitive behaviour which has been proved in courts of law), "Linux is a virus", Netscape, funding SCO's case aginst the Linux community and majestically shafting Sendo.

You say that Nokia is evil and destructive, but look at the trail of destruction that is being left in Microsoft's wake. You tell me what Nokia is doing, I show you what Microsoft has done.

Look at what Microsoft does with its monopoly; count how many Operating Systems are on sale on PCs in your local PC store. Now go down to your local mobile phone store and see how many brands and platforms are on sale there. That pretty much says a lot and, maybe, it all.

MSMobiles, as a technology news site, loses its credibility partly because it exists to "give Nokia a taste of its own medicine" (as you so eloquently put it), so get your priorities right and try to see byond the Microsoft envelope.

While your tone is clearly intended to drag me into an America Vs Europe argument, it won't work - you, like the owner of this site (who's name nobody is allowed to use) seem obsessed with nationality. I don't care from where a person or a company originates; your comment on the report that most people in America see Microsoft as a great company means nothing, and merely shows your tendancy toward the categorisation of national bias. Once you start bringing an argument into the confines of a nation's borders, I believe that deep down, you know you've lost.[/img]

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TANKERx : "First of all then, Nokia may have a large share in Symbian, but the other manufacturers still have more of a say in Symbian than they do in Windows Mobile. Saying that Symbian is a puppet of Nokia is plain wrong because Nokia does not pull all the strings, just most of them. "


Now that has got to be the funniest piece of double talk I have seen for quite awhile.
Listen, after Psion has sold its 31% shares to Nokia (and after Nokia has already taken over Motorola's share), Nokia is going to end up with some 63.3% of Symbian, as against just 17.5% for Ericsson, Panasonic with 7.9%, Samsung 5.0%, Siemens 4.8% and Sony Ericsson, a 50/50 joint venture between Sony of Japan and Ericsson, 1.5%.
Unless Nokia are holier than St Francis of Assisi ( and they are not), I don't see how Nokia is not going to call the shots in this company. That is a given.

As for Microsoft Windows Mobile and the OEMS, of course the OEMS have amassive say in the design of Windows Mobile, for the simple reason that Microsoft needs the OEMS far more than the OEM's need Microsoft, and Microsoft is very much aware that the OEM's can walk away anytime they want (like Sendo did) and go use Symbian or Linux.
If anything the cell phone OEMS are the ones who are in control, given that Windows Smartphone has less than 10% share worldwide in the smart phone market.
So your theory simply doesn't hold water does it?

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well, most of us come here just for the laughs.


seriously, the 'news' items are so crazy that it's on the thin line of being a joke or an insult(including the design of the site, the overall workability of it all & etc).

I was going to write a longer rant of how silly this and many other news posts are but I realised it would be pretty useless.


ps. Fix the comment link(so that it really would come here, if you think it's working allright: newsflash, it isn't - you find out what browser and conditions),

pps. It's not good PR to always be comparing something to the competitors product, if you're really such ms fanboy as you make yourself out then you should either shut up or grow some brains to FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT ARE BETTER ON THE MS SOLUTION(there's several points, but you seem to miss most of them in your rants).

ppps. you juvenile abomination coming easily kracking, DO YOU EVEN HAVE A XXXXXX MS SMARTPHONE AND A SYMBIAN BASED ONE TO EVEN HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THEM??

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It's good to see that fatuous asses are allowed to post their opinions here.

I know Andrew Orlowski. Most of your characterization of him is utterly false, and possibly libelous.