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[msmobiles.com_robot]

In next 1-2 months 2 great little phones powered by Microsoft Smartphone software are coming: Orange SPV C500 (also known as Qtek 8010, i-mate Smartphone 3, Dopod 565, etc) and Motorola MPx220.

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[iraqigeek]

As far as I liked reading news on this site, as far as i was shocked of reading this none sense article.

No offense intended, but the statement that the mpx220 is inferior to the C500 just because of the type of flashROM used is REAL none sense.

The only way i could think of this is that this site is acting as a sales rep. for Orange. After all, how could you have known about the brand of the flash ROMs inside two phone that are yet to be released, not to mention the technology used in manyfacturing them.

Even if this is the case in the MPx220, the phone is yet to be released and many changes could happen on the HW side until the release date. The C500 will be released this month, which meanse there is no time for a SW change, let go of a HW one.

And as far as the "inferior" technology of the flash ROM in the MPx220, it doesn't make that much of a difference, since the speed difference is only used for writing cycles, and how many of these will be made on a day to day use??? How many times will anyone flash their MPx220s anyway, provided that there were frequent ROM updates.

if being a quad band phone, having a mega pixel camera with flash, having better looks, more display colors, longer stand by times, all don't count in the face of a slower flash memory in writing cycles, i don't know what counts.

Please do not talk about other sites "just becoming an Orange sponsored Orange marketing machines that rather uncritically promote Orange product(s) rather than providing objective information", while you are becoming a blind sales machine for Orange.

[EJR]

[NickPopov]

I am very much surprised to hear this from msmobiles.com! Nothing but a promotion move. Shame.

[igor72]

[EJR]

[iraqigeek]

FYI, Its not a big of a work to change the brand/kind of flash ROMs or RAMs. As long as the new brands/types are pin compatible to the old ones, and as long as they can operate on the same voltage and frequency. If you have worked on any kind of processor, even an old 8085, you would know that changing memories is almost like throwing a new DIMM in a pc, as long as the two modules are pin compatible, frequency, and voltage compatible.

As far as info goes, information is good, and users should be informed, BUT the writer shouldn't have taken such a stand from the two phones. You cannot deny that you have got this info from Orange. I've been checking and reading news on this site for the past three months, and in no article/review of any phone this site has mentioned the use of a particullar kind of flash memory or RAM. This info came to you right out of Orange. I dare anyone on this site to find any kind of info on the sites of HTC, Orange, or Motorola mentioning anything about the type of flash ROM used in any of the phones they make/distribute (not just the C500 or MPx220).

BTW, wiseacre, can you enlighten me and the readers of this site about the actual benefits of the flash ROM in the day to day use of the C500? Why it would be better to have NAND gate flash ROM than NOR gate flash ROM?

The only difference i could see is that the C500 would be faster when flashing a firmware ROM, but even then, the difference wouldn't be that much. After all, how many times would any user flash his/her phone???

Oh, and did anyone read the PDF??? NAND gate flash memories suffer frombit flipping issues more than NOR gate flash ROMs do, and that's why NAND gate flash memories are REQUIRED to have EDC/ECC. On the other hand, NOR gate flash memores, suffer MUCH less from this issue, they have been reported to do so, but it's not the common case. If you think of reliability, i guess like motorola did, you would choose to use NOR gate memories, simply because they are more reliable.

One very important note, NOR gate memories are more expensive than NAND gate memories, so Motorola wasn't going the cheap way, HTC was.

There is no excuse, what so ever, for msmobiles to take such a stand of the MPx220 over such an important issue.

[igor72]

[EJR]

[The PocketTV Team]

Everytime you write a persistent file or update the Registry or a database on a Smartphone, this involves a write in the flash memory.

The flash memory is used as the persistent storage on a Smartphone (i.e. does not get wiped out when you turn the phone OFF or remove the battery).

So yes, the speed of write access in the flash memory will certainely impact the performances of some applications, not just when reflashing the firmware.

It is also true that most applications (e.g. playing a game, looking at a video, listening to music etc) do not involve writing data in the persistent storage.

I don't know if the difference will be that noticeable. And flash-memory write speed certainely not the only element to consider, either. I would personally consider stand-by battery life much more critical in my choice for a Smartphone.

Tabloid-style information provided by MSMobiles, although generally interesting, must always be taken with a large grain of salt (i.e. never at face value).

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[kyrkesmith]

[emenindian]

how does a slighly less faster phone technologically "inferior" to the mpx220?...this is such bs...the mpx220 has so much more to offer specification wise...I would rather have more features in a phone that are VERY arguably "slighly slower" than a faster phone deliberately PROMOTED by some shady website which has less features. Lets not forget msmobiles was also the news source that said the mpx220 didnt have an infrared port and they were completely wrong!

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