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msmobiles.com_robot · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215

Previously withhold and confidential, now the user's guide for HP iPAQ Pocket PC hw6500 has been released and it even contains detailed (at last official) specifications of this phone! In this story we quote these ...

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revolution.cx · Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 7

Those design compromises are OK if it means a lower price point and a drive by HP to go downmarket (though the prices you quote don't reflect that). If the memory architecture is decent then a 312mhz processor with SE should be fine. Hopefully it also means good battery life.

The 2 mem slots are nice. MiniSD for your programs and an SD card for media or WiFi.

240x240 is a bit of a disappointment. Again, let's hope that part costs half as much as a 480x480. 240x240 in the emulator isn't the prettiest but it is more useful than the standard Smartphone screen which has served us fine for 2 years.

But maybe HP is slipping after all.

EJR · Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2629

Stinger · Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 156

Regular mobile phones are already being released with QVGA screens. 240x240 is just unacceptable on a PDA at any price.

revolution.cx · Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 7

Sadly, I think all of this would have been just fine if the device was significantly smaller than the Treo. The Treo 600/650 is still a brick and many consumers reject it for that reason.

Take an HTC Typhoon and make it 50% wider (no thicker or taller) and with a Qwerty keyboard and you'll have them banging at your door.

thelondonthing · Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 236

jomni1 · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 65

The Amadeus is a Smartphone and not a Pocket PC so you can't compare it with the HP.

And I don't bother will all the new stuff coming out unless it already has the Magneto. Once the Magneto comes out, all these upcoming devices (both Smarphone and Pocket PC) will be obsolete.

thelondonthing · Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 236

jomni1 · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 65

My my, I didn't know I sounded that bad. Embarassed

My apologies for not reading your post carefully.

Anyway, in the advent of the Magneto there will be no difference between the Pocket PC and the Smartphone anymore. This is a major developement in Windows Mobile so I'd rather wait for a device that has this than the current Smartphone 2003 or Windows Mobile Second Edition OS. I know that there are always new devices to make the others obsolete, but I see more value in waiting for the Magneto (which is probably coming this year) than buying something that hasn't and regretting it.

That's why I'm not excited with all the devices coming out.

But I agree with all of you that the HP messenger is headed for disaster!

Kensai · Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

Guys, with all the respect but isn't a little bit exagerated to say 240x240 is ultra low? Confused

Except for the VGA models so far all models have been 240x320, so 240x240 is normal and expected as an extrapolation of a QVGA model on a square screen. I understand it won't be top notch but which model has been screen-wise except for the 4700 and the X50v?

Also, I didn't understand that part about programs that won't work on this resolution. Why? I guess all programs working on portrait mode on 240x320 PPCs will work fine. You will just have to scroll down a little bit more.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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jomni1 · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 65

Kensai, the point that you will have to scroll down is actually a pain especially when you are playing arcade games.

Kensai · Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

Ιt's true jomni1, but I really don't think this PPC Phone is addressed to persons mainly playing games. Wink

Personally, I'm a senior med student and need it to have some e-books for my work. Indeed scrolling is pita but I prefer to have my keyboard at the lower part than having a 240x320 and without (as in the 6300).

But other than scrolling, why should compatibility problems arise?! Confused

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jomni1 · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 65

Probably not optimal for games... But there are also non-games what may not fully work with square screens. Like GPS (the HP messenger has a GPS)... some GPS programs have buttons at the bottom of the screen. If this is hardcoded for a regular screen, you will not be able access the buttons with out scrolling. Since this is the only PPC with a square screen, do you think the developers will find it economical to make a version / upgrade specifically to cater to this device?

And landscape mode would be a joke. The fact that we want landscape is that we prefer to read from a larger horizontal space. Since it's square, landscape and portrait is the same. Confused

Kensai · Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 32

Your remarks are right. But I really don't think the latest versions of most popular programs (including GPS) haven't taken into consideration the fact square-screen products are due to arrive.

Square screens have been announced since last year, those software houses that haven't upgraded their code since then are not serious if you ask me. We're going to see more products sporting 240x240 (or 320x320) in the future because this design allows them to contain a small QWERTY keyboard as well.

All things considered, I find hw6500 one of the best products announced at the moment. I believe it's addressed to those businessmen who want to have a worthy PDA and phone combined, while having Blackberry-keyboard functionality and GPS. Perhaps the camera will be useful for certain professions, such as real-estate. Smile

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