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msmobiles.com_robot
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject: Windows Mobile 5.0 - what is new ? - detailed list of changes and improvements |
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If you would like to learn in details what is new in Windows Mobile 5.0 read on...
Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3826.html |
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austinguy23
Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 72
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, the mother-load article we've all been waiting for. As usual, thanks for the early scoop...
I'm pleasantly surprised to see such a laundry list of improvements and new features. The one update most may overlook is the improved reception while on a call and improved call connect/receive reliability. Very nice...
Question - what is meant by WAN when they contrast it with Wi-Fi? WAN is simply "wide-area network". One can certainly connect to a wide-area network via Wi-Fi, so I'm not sure what is meant here. Is WAN meant to refer to the cell provider's data network (e.g. GPRS/EDGE/etc.)? |
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EJR

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2629
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| austinguy23 wrote: |
Question - what is meant by WAN when they contrast it with Wi-Fi? WAN is simply "wide-area network". One can certainly connect to a wide-area network via Wi-Fi, so I'm not sure what is meant here. Is WAN meant to refer to the cell provider's data network (e.g. GPRS/EDGE/etc.)? |
WAN is access to Internet over cellular networks. So GPRS, EDGE, WCDMA, UMTS, CDMA-EVDO, etc |
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renesisx
Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Ooo.. quite a list. Shame most of those are bug-fixes or features other GSM phones have had since around 1996 (e.g. delivery receipts on all messages).
The big one I like in there is DirectShow support. This means people can write their own custom codecs for Windows Media Player, the same as on the desktop, and you'll only have to install a DLL to get Divx, Xvid, AAC support etc. That's cool. |
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Camp
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 20 Location: IBIZA
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| INFORMATIVE |
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ugumba
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 15
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:52 am Post subject: Any hope for existing phones? |
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Is there any chance that existing phones can be upgraded to Mobile 5?
(E.g. Qtek 8010, C500, ...) |
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EJR

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2629
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Any hope for existing phones? |
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| ugumba wrote: | Is there any chance that existing phones can be upgraded to Mobile 5?
(E.g. Qtek 8010, C500, ...) |
Yes, because Microsoft employees have these phones with Windows Mobile 5. However the question is whether distributors and operators will provide such upgrades is a different issue. |
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Pennan
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 20
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Any hope for existing phones? |
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| ugumba wrote: | Is there any chance that existing phones can be upgraded to Mobile 5?
(E.g. Qtek 8010, C500, ...) |
Only if the manufacturers choose to release an update, but I doubt it since the they probably want you to buy a new device instead.
But you never know.
Users of recent Dell and HP Pocket PCs will be able to update though. |
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Stinger
Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 156
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Two things strike me:
- No native video telephony. 3rd party implementations will never integrate as well as as 1st party solution. Without decent video telephony support, Microsoft will suffer in Europe and Asia.
- There seems to be a lot of features which are "Pocket PC only". Whatever happened to combining the two platforms?
Other than that, it looks quite impressive. Of course, it doesn't matter how good the OS is if the phones aren't up to the same standard. Let's hope that one of Microsoft's partners announces something that can rival the Nokia N91. |
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EJR

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 2629
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| Stinger wrote: | | Let's hope that one of Microsoft's partners announces something that can rival the Nokia N91. |
yeah, Samsung i300 is that something and it was announced before nokia n91!
lack of video for 3G: Microsoft has potrait technology for video conferencing and any manufacturer can license it too.
lack of integration of both platforms pocket pc and smartphone : I agree that it sucks. |
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Stinger
Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 156
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | yeah, Samsung i300 is that something and it was announced before nokia n91! |
The i300 lacks 3G and WiFi though.
It also uses proprietary sockets for headphones and PC connectivity, which sucks. |
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PPC_Apprentice
Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:57 am Post subject: GPRS disconnect (info + hint) |
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| Quote: | GPRS disconnect (PPC+SP)
Once connected, GPRS will remain connected unless the user turns on flight mode, which will turn of all radio connections, including the phone. The user cannot selectively choose to disconnect only the GPRS connection. |
Thank you for a very thorough article.
It is sometimes difficult to discern whether the explaining text by each listed feature describes the current situation or the new (and hopefully improved) situation in WM 5.0.
One such case is the GPRS disconnect (quoted above) section which actually describes the current, and very annoying, situation. This quirk drove me nuts--especially since the user manual shows a GPRS disconnect feature, logically accessed through the same "bubble" (stemming from the GPRS icon at the top) as where the GPRS connection is initiated. How can it be in the manual and not in the actual OS, I wonder!
HOWEVER... If you also suffer from this problem, you need not use the annoying procedure of turning flight mode on and the off again: During a tech support call to the supplier of my Qtek S100 (which is called iMate Jam, etc. in other markets), I was told that holding the red handset hang-up button for several seconds disconnects GPRS. Yippee!!!
Thanks again for posting the informative article.
-PPCA |
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