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msmobiles.com_robot · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 16777215

This is just one of the first stories, where we are showing that it is pointless to buy nowadays a Windows Mobile phone, that is not powered by Windows Mobile 5.0! Pointless because new fantastic software will not w...

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nedge2k · Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 61

You may like to tell people that this app is part of the WM 5.0 Smartphone SDK (which has been available for some time) so if people want the source code its in there.
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austinguy23 · Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 72

This might be helpful if it would e-mail you it's exact GPS coordinates. That would have come in handy when my phone was lost/stolen last wkend...

kupe · Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 513

Please hook me up with all these places I can purchase these WM 5.0 powered smartphones. I'm having trouble finding one.

austinguy23 · Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 72

WM05 phones do not yet exist. HP's hw6700 will supposedly be released in November with it, and the HTC Universal is due in September I think. However, the HTC Universal will not have GPS.

nedge2k · Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 61

austinguy23 · Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 72

lol, we're talking about smartphones that have GPS integrated.

nedge2k · Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 61

There are no real Smartphones with GPS...only crappy phones with aGPS. AFAIK none are planned either.
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austinguy23 · Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 72

Why do you call assisted-GPS crappy? AGPS is an enhancement to conventional GPS in that it compensates for conventional GPS's two shortcomings (see below):

1. There is no indoor coverage and performance is poor when the sky is even partially obscured.

2. The time is slow to fix the original position unless the device is constantly tracking satellites.

To solve the inherent restrictions of conventional GPS, assisted GPS was proposed (T1P1.5 standards for E911). Assisted GPS is based upon providing GPS satellite information to the handset via a cellular network resulting in vast improvements in the following:

1. Time to First Fix
2. Battery Life
3. Sensitivity
4. Cost

nedge2k · Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 61

Did i say aGPS was crappy?
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spacer · Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 15

no need for GPS
just Read nearby BTS Cell IDs and send it back with sms
u should get some 1km accuracy which should be enough then use some BT parabolla to identify it Smile

kupe · Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 513

gilesjuk · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 312

You keep saying we shouldn't buy phones without Windows Mobile 5 yet you fail to provide a good reason other than the fact it's the next version of Windows Mobile and that most phones won't have an upgrade path.

Fact is, 2003SE is stable, runs 99.99% of current smartphone apps, has the widest userbase of Windows Smartphone and available handsets.

From looking at the Microsoft promotional material most of the changes to WM5 are under the hood. Support for WIFI, hard disk storage, persistent storage (which Smartphone has already but PPC didn't).

There's a large enough API in there already to do searches etc, you just need access to the filesystem which any OS worth its salt will do.

There are those who will rush in and run Longhorn even though it will have driver problems, app compatibility problems. I'd sooner hold back and wait until those are ironed out. Just like I'd prefer to wait a while so WM5 is more stable and supported.