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msmobiles.com_robot
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: Why choose a Microsoft platform? (for mobile phones and PDAs) |
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Symbian is inferior to Windows Mobile, so obviously one should select Windows Mobile phones, rather than Symbian based - that's our answer... but let's take a look what is Microsoft's answer, that is also much le...
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Stinger
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Microsoft provide a much more lucid agruement than you've managed yet.
Maybe you should take a leaf out of their book and stop with the "Blah blah blah Nokia blah blah blah Symbian" nonsense.
Try to point out why Windows Mobile should be chosen over any other platform, rather than making childish insults about the competition. Be positive, not negative.  |
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EJR
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Stinger wrote: |
Try to point out why Windows Mobile should be chosen over any other platform, rather than making childish insults about the competition. Be positive, not negative. |
symbian phones have support through marketing campaigns from nokia worth hundreds millions of USD - something that Windows Mobile doesn't have. Therefore I find it important to point out that symbian is inferior to Windows Mobile in several areas, like: lack of true .NET, lack of Skype client or lack of support of Wi-Fi in many models, etc...
besides: wouldn't it be boring if everybody would say the same? |
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Richo
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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The point he is trying to make is you don't make clear logical arguments to support the assertions you make. Quite often you twist what other say or just jump to unsupported conclusions. I'm someone who is looking for a new phone and not currently a Symbian or MS Smartphone user and I can say that your claim to MS Mobile 5.0 being the be all and end all is not correct. There are many factors which affect ones purchasing decision and you generally fail to identify any of them except you own personal opionion. Which would be fine expect you put out your opinion as fact.
Now in saying that a MS Mobile device is most likely going to be my next phone, but the choice is certainly not as obvious or clear cut as you seem to make it out to be. |
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Kensai
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that although WM5 is so much powerful, it is still hasn't been given the attention it deserves it if ever wants to compete seriously with Symbian, especially this side of the Atlantic (old world). 
Both OSes are great for today's smartphones, but Symbian gets an unprecedented publicity and has secured a big part of the smartphone market. I don't know if its new developing tools will be as easy as Microsoft's, but in the advertisement department it has much to teach to Seattle... 
Bill Gates needs to wake up and inject a great deal of advertisement in Windows Mobile. I find it ridiculous to watch TV commercials about "Windows XP" (which is already ubiquitous!!) and NOT for HTC Wizard or Universal... 
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gilesjuk
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: |
lack of true .NET, lack of Skype client or lack of support of Wi-Fi in many models, etc...
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.NET is Microsoft, hence competitors are limited to open source clones.
Lacking a piece of software isn't a failing in the platform, but a failing in the development of software for the platform. Either because the userbase isn't large enough, the development tools are shoddy or the API confusing. The quality of Symbian's OS is good. You can criticise Symbian and its origins all you like, but I'm sure you are running a device with an ARM core. The ARM processor, symbian and PSION are all linked in history, all developed in Cambridge (and subsequently licenced).
Lack of Wifi? The Nokia Communicator had Wifi a couple of years ago, the Smartphones don't have Wifi yet and it's pretty obvious you can add Wifi to a largely PocketPC based device as they're just a PDA with phone extensions.
Would be nicer if at times this was a news and information site, not a fan site |
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EJR
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| gilesjuk wrote: |
Lack of Wifi? The Nokia Communicator had Wifi a couple of years ago, the Smartphones don't have Wifi yet and it's pretty obvious you can add Wifi to a largely PocketPC based device as they're just a PDA with phone extensions.
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Only 2 models of symbian phons have Wi-Fi: nokia communicator 9500 and Motorola A1000. While many many (over 10) models of Windows Mobile phones have built-in Wi-Fi and all (!) Pocket PC phones can upgrade to Wi-Fi through SDIO. Clearly Windows Mobile phones are much better at Wi-Fi and this is a fact. |
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Kensai
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Hehe, indeed sometimes msmobiles.com becomes too much of a fan site at the expense of the quality of news. But I don't complain. I used to be, and I'm still in certain ways, a Symbian-fan who switches sides now that the Windows Mobile camp seems mature.
Symbian hasn't lost the battle in the smartphone segment though. Actually ít's far from losing it with SymbianOS v9.0 coming ahead and lots of goodies inside. But Windows Mobile is a gear ahead because of the upcoming Visual Studio 2005 support which has a really broad base of developers.
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