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msmobiles.com_robot
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 Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject: Sprint PC launched PPC-6700 Pocket PC phone |
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It is great to live in USA: not only you have flat rate mobile Internet access, but also due to increased competition (in USA there is not only GSM but also CDMA) also such nice devices like this new Pocket PC phone...
Read more at http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/4286.html |
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page3
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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I am sure that there are many wonderful reasons for living in the USA but mobile technology just isn't one of them.  |
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| page3 wrote: | | I am sure that there are many wonderful reasons for living in the USA but mobile technology just isn't one of them. |
If you would have to pay 100 USD for 10 MB data transfer over mobile phone network (like it is at most carriers in EU), you would see it differently...
and in USA? for as little as 19-39 USD a month one can get unlimited traffic for mobile Internet access! |
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page3
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | page3 wrote: | | I am sure that there are many wonderful reasons for living in the USA but mobile technology just isn't one of them. |
If you would have to pay 100 USD for 10 MB data transfer over mobile phone network (like it is at most carriers in EU), you would see it differently...
and in USA? for as little as 19-39 USD a month one can get unlimited traffic for mobile Internet access! |
Agree, uncapped data is a very big positive. Europe might have the technology but is let badly down by consumer prices - making that technology fairly pointless to most of us. I wasn't specifically referring to Europe, as looking East is the way to technological bliss. |
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LiverpoolFan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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From all I had previously read - all models of this HTC phone were spec.'d with a 200 Mhz processor.
Is this a new variant with a 416 Mhz processor instead ? |
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| LiverpoolFan wrote: | From all I had previously read - all models of this HTC phone were spec.'d with a 200 Mhz processor.
Is this a new variant with a 416 Mhz processor instead ? |
yes, the GSM version has slow processor and CDMA version has 416 MHz... |
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jeffreii
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: get this instead of the universal? |
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Which HTC phone is this and what, if anything, should make me wait for the HTC Universal instead of this phone. I know the Universal has VGA display but is that really a reason for me to wait for a phone that might never come to USA??
Please give me some suggestions as I am dying to get a nice WM5.0 phone in the USA and this seems to be the first one with keyboard/megapixel camera/wifi/wm5.0 etc.
-Jeff
edit: i also see it has mini SD, not SD which means 1GB possible instead of 2GB...i believe |
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BeyondtheTech
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | yes, the GSM version has slow processor and CDMA version has 416 MHz... |
The GSM version (the Wizard) has a different type of processor, a multi-core OMAP 850, running at a lower clock speed while the CDMA version (the Apache) has the already known XScale processor running at 416MHz, much like the JAM (the Magician).
It would be very unwise and stupid for any company to produce a new replacement device that would perform much worse than its predecessor.
It's been said time and again that the focus is power on the OMAP, versus raw speed on the XScale. The benefit is battery life without sacrificing performance. Any person with a pulse can analogize a Porsche versus a Hyundai at 4000 RPM would obviously perform very differently.
I am certain that if they ever decide to put the OMAP 850 processor at the same clock speed as the XScale (416 MHz), it would literally blow it out of the water.
Time will tell, so it would be wise not to naively call it a "slow processor."
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: get this instead of the universal? |
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| jeffreii wrote: | Which HTC phone is this and what, if anything, should make me wait for the HTC Universal instead of this phone. I know the Universal has VGA display but is that really a reason for me to wait for a phone that might never come to USA??
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It will be HTC Wizard, that goes on sale in EU in October as "O2 Xda mini s" or i-mate K-JAM and it has quad-band GSM and EDGE and can be used also in USA. |
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| BeyondtheTech wrote: |
Time will tell, so it would be wise not to naively call it a "slow processor." |
200 MHz is slower than 416 MHz but you are right: we must see benchmark results, from some native Windows Mobile benchmark program like:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/?en |
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guttrhead
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| guttrhead wrote: | | Benchmarks show the wizard outpreforming the Magican (which uses the same processor as the Apache) |
these are wrong benchmarks because they test Java machine and not overall speed of the processor. |
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Longkesh
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote: | | guttrhead wrote: | | Benchmarks show the wizard outpreforming the Magican (which uses the same processor as the Apache) |
these are wrong benchmarks because they test Java machine and not overall speed of the processor. |
Wait and see before you jump to any conclusions
| Quote: | | The OMAP5910 is built on a dual-core processor: an ARM-925 and a TMS320C55X, connected with a specialized interprocessor communications mechanism. Targeting current RISC processor users with multimedia applications, the dual-core OMAP offers half the power consumption and twice the performance capability of such other portable platforms as Intel Corp.'s Xscale devices, Mar said. |
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jeffreii
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: get this instead of the universal? |
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| jeffreii wrote: | Which HTC phone is this and what, if anything, should make me wait for the HTC Universal instead of this phone. I know the Universal has VGA display but is that really a reason for me to wait for a phone that might never come to USA??
Please give me some suggestions as I am dying to get a nice WM5.0 phone in the USA and this seems to be the first one with keyboard/megapixel camera/wifi/wm5.0 etc.
-Jeff
edit: i also see it has mini SD, not SD which means 1GB possible instead of 2GB...i believe |
anyone have a suggestion for me? i want the universal but i am tired of waiting in the USA! |
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EJR
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: get this instead of the universal? |
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| jeffreii wrote: |
anyone have a suggestion for me? i want the universal but i am tired of waiting in the USA! |
if I would be living in USA I would buy PPC-6700 (it has ability to use both fast flat rate CDMA-EVDO and built-in Wi-Fi) but since I am living in EU I myself will buy HTC Wizard (probably as O2 Xda mini s) as my next primary phone (currently my primary phone is HTC Magician). |
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