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New articles from Microsoft: Sprint PPC 6700, A Super Model + I Have an iMate Jasjar!

 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:41 pm    Post subject: New articles from Microsoft: Sprint PPC 6700, A Super Model + I Have an iMate Jasjar! Reply with quote

Suzanne Ross, whose sole qualification is being "fond of her two laptops, two desktops, and a Windows Mobile-based Smartphone and Pocket PC" has again scored paid job at Microsoft: she wrote for Microsoft 2 extrem...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firsly, you suppose she was referring to placing conference calls using MS Portrait. If you aren't aware Skype mentioned sometime back that they are considering introducing video also into their services in the future. So do you suppose she meant the above when she said "placing calls over the internet" ?

Secondly, you really need to stop battering people. You have a good website, why do you insist on getting down and dirty. It doesnt bode too well for you IMO.

My 0.002.
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xiasma



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putting aside your "my Atari is better than your Amiga" infantile "style" (that will surely land you in court) for a moment and concentrating on some fundaments of journalism, perhaps you should not be throwing quite so many stones?

In the article http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4300.html, you state "the fact that Quanta could in fact start producing Windows Mobile phones would be incredibly good for competition. " Neither of those "facts" are indeed facts. You go on to add "while we usually don't publish such rumors...the fact that Xda Atom is not made by HTC." Again, not a fact, as you've previously declared it to be rumour. You confuse speculation with absolute truth many more times, including "and since Quanta is such a big and established corporation may only mean that they can produce Windows Mobile phones with even more features than HTC!". That can't ONLY mean "the can produce Windows Mobile phones".

You liberally misuse and colons: I counted nine colons in that one short article and at least three were clearly incorrect (and most of the others were used in a way I'd not expect to see in professional writing). I won't even touch on Random Capitalisation! (sic)

Furthermore, when you refer to MSMobiles as "we", it always amuses me. I imagine there's one early-pubescent boy in his bedroom writing this on his home-brewed PC in his bedroom.

You've not asked for advice, so I'll keep it short and sweet. If you are intent on slandering, defaming and generally winding up people, get yourself some good insurance and make sure MSMobiles is a limited company. You could very easily lose everything.

On a positive note, MSMobiles gets the news first and it's one of only four or five sites I visit almost daily. But, if you're more than a one man/boy band, think about getting a real journalist to write the copy, or get a decent editor.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: New articles from Microsoft: Sprint PPC 6700 – A Super M Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_robot wrote:
...she has written for Microsoft 2 extremely amateurish articles about latest Pocket PC phones:...

Ahh irony. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Said articles are also written for a different, less technical audience than the folks that peruse this (and other) sites.

If Microsoft's market share for the Windows Mobile platform is as important to you as you suggest, then reviews of products in "layman's" terms are extremely important.
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EJR



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

docc wrote:
Firsly, you suppose she was referring to placing conference calls using MS Portrait. If you aren't aware Skype mentioned sometime back that they are considering introducing video also into their services in the future. So do you suppose she meant the above when she said "placing calls over the internet" ?


No, no, no. She was speaking about 3G video calling and she was thinking that it works "over Internet" not knowning that it works only within UMTS network.


xiasma wrote:

Furthermore, when you refer to MSMobiles as "we", it always amuses me. I imagine there's one early-pubescent boy in his bedroom writing this on his home-brewed PC in his bedroom.


I am not the only writer for msmobiles.com and besides I am going to various trade shows related to cell phones, including the most important one - 3GSM:
http://msmobiles.com/search.php?q=3gsm+world+congress&iIn=1&BSearch=Search
... and more, that I could tell you about myself to prove that I know more about cellphones than regular people.

Anyway: stop offending tone in your posts, please.


kupe wrote:
msmobiles.com_robot wrote:
...she has written for Microsoft 2 extremely amateurish articles about latest Pocket PC phones:...

Ahh irony. Rolling Eyes


There's no irony in it. She gets paid by Microsoft for writing articles that are misinforming people and that are not professional. Microsoft is not giving anything to msmobiles.com - nothing, nada.


siksik6 wrote:
Said articles are also written for a different, less technical audience than the folks that peruse this (and other) sites.

If Microsoft's market share for the Windows Mobile platform is as important to you as you suggest, then reviews of products in "layman's" terms are extremely important.


True! However Microsoft must pay attention to being correct, particularly in area of 3G/UMTS that is extremely important to operators. And Microsoft was many times saying that operators (i.e. carriers) are very important to Microsoft....
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kupe



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msmobiles.com_wiseacre wrote:
There's no irony in it. She gets paid by Microsoft for writing articles that are misinforming people and that are not professional. Microsoft is not giving anything to msmobiles.com - nothing, nada.

Even then, Microsoft is not getting their money's worth from this site.

Well they say irony is often tough to comprehend. There's amateurish quality and there's poor quality making fun of amateurish quality. It's all entertaining. Laughing
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xiasma



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, where to start?
First of all, let me apologise if you think I am being too personal and offensive. For that I am sorry. This does not, however, change my opinion that the language of many of your articles is grammatically poor and therefore I feel it unsuitable for you to criticise others for their "extremely amateurish articles." I believe it is this to which Kupe made his statement of irony, not to the alleged payrolls. If, however, you are being difficult over the semantics, then perhaps you could explain how this site is funded? I've seen advertisements which, I assume, are placed in exchange for revenue. This, by definition, would make this a professional site, rather than a simple blog. Secondly, many of your assertions appear to be based on guesswork. For example, how do you know Suzanne Ross is actually paid by Microsoft? I'd happily write articles for MS for free if they published them (and my company URL) on their website. This has certainly happened for a former schoolmate of mine - he had over 20 articles published on microsoft.com and received not a penny in return. Furthermore, how do you know she is unqualified? I'd certainly be interested to read your qualifications and your age, along with those of the other editors and journalists at MSMobiles.

I really do feel that the web is all the better for MSMobiles, but I do wish you'd take a more professional approach to your writing. You can't simply wash it away with "we're a tabloid" because you're not and tabloids rarely, if ever, make such personal digs in such an obvious way. And the standard of copy is painful to read. Perhaps Private Eye would be a better role model?

My other point, suitably ignored, was about the nature of comments against companies you have, for whatever reason, decided you don't like. Were I an exec at Handango, Expansys, T Mobile or various others, I'd not hesitate in getting my most unpleasant and expensive lawyers to tap you on the shoulder. Please don't make it come to this as I'd miss the site as would, I'm sure, many others.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROFL!
Some of the reasons I keep coming back to msmobiles...latest scoops on phones, and good laughs!
Some days your finger pointing just irks me because you point out these flaws in other sites/people when most of yours are blindingly apparent with some of your writings.
Other days, your writings are so blatently hypocritical I can't help but laugh!
Thanks for making my hump day!
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